Processing of Priority Group 5 GSM a Depressing Update

Somewhere in this mess of information below Priority 5 GSM applicants can discover when and if their validly lodged applications will be processed. It is becoming increasingly difficult to justify why the government is stalling on the processing of these applications. The most telling sentence in the third link below states – Many Priority Group 5 applicants still face a considerable wait until their application is allocated to a case officer for processing and may want to consider other options available.”

‘Considerable wait’ like many terms in immigration is not defined and for want of a better definition we can assume this will be an open ended period. I’m sure they are correct when they say applicants caught in this political and bureaucratic nightmare would like to consider other available options. It’s a throwaway line that runs so easily off lips of DIAC and the Federal government. Are they attempting to starve these applicants out in some modern version of a medieval siege? If we make them wait long enough they’ll just go away and it won’t be a problem anymore. Not every applicant in this group has a viable option! Many have an enormous amount of time, money and emotional capital invested in their applications and to be so blithely fobbed off by the government and DIAC in this manner is shameful.

When the system creates a problem (and it is not possible to deny that the system actively created this problem) it is morally obliged to solve it rather than bury it in increasingly difficult to follow and understand levels of fact sheets, service charters, processing priorities and estimated allocation times that have no estimated time.

It seemed to me that the introduction of the new Skill Select Expressions of Interest system presented the ideal opportunity to sort this mess out. Clear the backlog of applications and then move into the new system but alas this seems not to be the case.

The Minister’s new Processing Priorities…

Skilled Migration Visa Processing Times

Processing of Priority 5 GSM Applications

DIAC allocation dates

418 responses to “Processing of Priority Group 5 GSM a Depressing Update

  1. hi, this is naseer i just finished my certificate iii automotive on april 2011 and finished 2yrs study . so I would to know for skilled assesment its work experience
    paid or unpaid for 485 visa and one more think i can eligible for applying after 31 dec 2012

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      You are outside the 6 month application window for a 485 application. I caanot see how you can apply validly.

      • Hello there,

        I have applied for a 885 visa in June 2010. I applied under the old system.
        I did a diploma in community welfare work, had the relevant work experiences and met all other requirements for the 885 including the IELTS 7 bands each. I am still waiting surprisingly patiently for it to be processed.

        What chances do I have given all the changes that has occurred since?

        Please advice


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        The changes will not affect the application it is justba matter of waiting until they decide to process the application. I cannot comment on your actual application as I have not seen your paperwork.

      • Hello Grant,

        This is Nina again, (see the question and answer below)

        I have another enquiry, and I would be grateful if you could answer me.

        It says on the immigration website that people in Cat 5 are facing a considerable wait and should look into other options.

        For a reminder I applied for an 885 in accordance with all the requirements in 2010. I am currently a 3rd year law student, and working part time in my field of application (welfare worker).

        My question is what other options can I consider?

        Kind Regards


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Not a fair Blog question as it is totally open ended and I have seen none of your actual documents and I have not had an opportunity to interview you and ask questions. You need to get face to face advice and have an assessment made. When a person has been on a BV for a long time the options avaialable are quite limited. DIAC are somewhat deceptive in this avdice.

      • Nina again,

        I intend to sit the NAATI exam for French-English interpreter/translator, if successful would it give me more points and help boost the application?

      • Hi grant I need u help

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        What are you asking?

  2. Hi, I m Nawaz
    i m on student visa sub class(572) i hared that from 1 January 2013 485(skilled graduate visa) will not be issue. Is that right, please clarify…
    i will be thank full.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      That is currently the case.

      • Hello Greg,
        could you explain this in more detail? I was aware that the only changes regard students that got their visa after November 2011, and if they’re doing a bachelor degree or higher they would be eligible for the new 485 (post-study work visa valid for 2 years), meanwhile all others can still apply for the ordinary 485 (valid for 1,5 years).
        From your answer I understand that if I’m a current international student I won’t be able to apply for the current 485 visa after 1 January 2013!

        Thank you,

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Explain what in more detail? If you are referring to the post on Priority Processing I’m not sure what more you want as it is all on the DIAC website as referrred to.
        Not also sure what you are talking about for 485 visa. That is not what I said. There is no current ‘post study’ work visa. DIAC are talking about creating one.

      • Sorry Grant, I didn’t specify that my question was related to a reply that you gave to Nawaz at the beginning of the comments, where he said, I quote: “i m on student visa sub class(572) i hared that from 1 January 2013 485(skilled graduate visa) will not be issue. Is that right, please clarify…”
        To this you replied: “this is currently the case”. My question therefore is: does this mean that if I finish an advanced diploma in january and I would like to apply for a skilled graduate visa I won’t be able to do so?
        Sorry for the misunderstanding, thank you for your availability in giving all the information on your blog,

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        William Not quite what I said however…for now the 485 visa exists. When it ends who knows . It may be replaced by the new post study visa but that does not exist yet. So my point is no one can really tell you. I can tell you what the situation is now. Jan2013???? GW

      • Sorry…I meant Grant, not Greg!

    • My husband just received a letter remitted his visa application from MRT. What should we do next and how long does it take for DIAC reply us

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        How long is up to DIAC but if you have not heard after 2 months contact them. What’s next.. you wait.

  3. Helo sir
    I have applied for GSM 485 and got refusal due to ielts I couldn’t get 6 in each now I have applied for mrt on 25 June long I will be on bridiging visa a and I got 6 in each band now can I win the case or is there any chance I could apply for another visa


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Sunny MRT is taking about 2 years and no they cannot consider this new IELTS in realtion to your case.

  4. Hi Grant,

    I’m very glad to have found your blog and would love to work with you in person later on (please give me your email).

    But for now, I have 3 questions.


    My current student 573 visa expires in March 2013. It was granted on the CoE of my previous course, Music Business, with JMC. I moved to Marketing with RMIT and have finished the course last month.

    I did what Student Compliace told me to do. Apply for 485 Graduate visa and request to have my student visa cancelled. Attached the request form was the document that says my Bridging Visa E which I’ll have to acquire (after the student visa and bridging visa A is cancelled) will provide me unlimited work rights (which means I can work full time).

    So my first question is, can I work full-time now? Even before my student visa gets cancelled and before I go on a BVE). I got offered a job In the role that I want in a reputable company and they would love me to start ASAP.


    I renewed my student visa after Feb 2010 and I jumped from one course to another 3 times. Will DIAC know that when assessing my visa application that I was holding a valid student in Feb 2010 and I’m eligible for the transitional period? Or is that up to VETASSESS who assesses my education?

    Thanks so much for your help.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Feel etc…
      Yes you can.
      No you are not transitional if you have applied for a new student visa. If all you have done is change courses this is not releveant to transitional status. However you are only transitional for ther 485 and that is the end of this entitlement for you.

  5. But I’ve been here since July 2008 on a student visa.

  6. Thanks Grant.

    So… Will I get granted 485 from the sound of it? It’s just my skill is not on the new SOL list. I nominated myself as a marketing specialist (with VETASSESS).

    Will I be able to get an employer to sponsor me while on BVE? (or 485 once granted if I will?)

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Feel… Yes I’d say so and it is very difficult to get the employer sponsorship from the BVE. Normally you’d need to depart to get the visa section granted and then come back on that new 457 visa. I’d wait until the 485 is granted. GW

  7. Hi Grant,
    My name is ajit, I came here on student visa(commercial cookery) in jan’ 2007 and applied my 485 visa in jan’2009 and my decision is still pending and telling me that case officer is allocated and doing intigirity check. I am already working in my field for more then 2yrs and doing 70hrs fortnight for more then year. So I am waiting for the decision, so that I can apply for permanent residency before dec’2012. could u please advice me about my case, that what I have to do. Incase if decision of my visa 485 will pending till next year, Is it possible for me to apply residency on experience basis.
    secondly, In may 2009 I applied for visa 487(paper based) and not decided so far. I am keep waiting for that as well. I contact so my time and they said I have to wait…..!
    Could You please help me to get out from this un ending wait..! I will be very thankful to you.
    With Regards,

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Not sure what you expect I can do. I have not seen any of your paperwork therefore it is impossible to give an opinion. INtegrity checks from some countries seem to add almost 12 months to processing times. There is no magic bullet to slove the waiting in the queue problem I’m afraid.

  8. Hi Grant,

    I’ve mentioned a bit of my case before. I have another question.

    My 573 visa is with CoE for Bachelor of Entertainment Business Management — expiring in March 2013.

    However, I only finished the Diploma level in Entertainment Business Management and moved to RMIT to complete a Bachelor of Marketing. I’ve just completed it in July.

    I have applied for a 485 GSM and received the email about BVA.
    However Student Compliance told me to request to have my student visa cancelled and she’s going to issue me BVE with work rights.

    I have sent in a request to have my visa cancelled…but i have not heard back from them yet. I don’t want to have my student visa cancelled anymore.

    Question 1: Should I go to Student Compliance and tell them that? Or should I wait until they reply and write them a note during the 5-day cooling period?

    Question 2: Is there anyway for me to work more than 20 hours and not have to request to have my visa cancelled? (can I fastback my visa to cease sooner and BVA goes in effect?)

  9. Hi Grant,
    My question is regarding applying for the Australian PR. Given the recent changes and introduction of skillselect is it still possible to apply for the independent skilled worker PR offshore without skillselect ?
    I had applied for a VC 485 in August’11 and was on a BVA after. However I had to leave Australia in Mar’12 as my mum had an road accident in India. As I didnt know when I would return I didnt apply for a BVB and assumed my application for 485 might get rejected for departing the country so abruptly. However, I got a case officer for my application in May’12 who asked me to return back in 30 days so that a decision can be made. On submitting proper medical evidence I was allowed extra time till Oct’12 on compassionate grounds. As I would soon be returning to Australia to take my TR I also wanted to file my application for the PR since I have the necessary points and dont want to delay it till after 1st Jan’13. Though given the medical situation of my mother I want to still be in India till she recovers completely so was wondering if I can apply for the PR offshore or do I need to apply and stay in Australia for my application to be fully processed. Alternately as with my VC 485 can I apply in Australia and then come back to India till either my application gets a case officer or my mother’s situation is better ?
    When I applied for the 485 I was on a student visa and when that expired I automatically went on BVA. Now if I get my TR and apply for PR.. would I still have the provisions of the 485 or would I again go on a BVA ?
    Though my logic says that if I have a valid TR I should be able to enter and exit the country based on that but then I read somewhere on your blog about not trying to play ‘Bush Lawyer’ with immigration and to just abide with their rules.. so please advice.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      No it is not.
      If you can return and get the 485 that visa lasts for 18 months from time of visa grant. Youy can still apply for the old stsyem visa up to the end of December 2012 from your 485. If you do that a new BV will be issued that will come into force only when your 485 expires. Yes you can return o/s on the 485

  10. Hi Grant. I applied visa 886 in may 2009 on Queensland’s sponsership my occupation is cook and in march 2012 co was allocated to my case and ask for form 1100. Then contect to Queensland they emailed to me we sent form 1100 to diac on August 2009 on your behalf . Now co refused my file on 886.222(2),886.222(3).saying manister does not accept nomination. That’s totally unfair after a long wait we got this thing. I applied mrt now what u thinking what will happen and how long is processing thing more I want to mention is when I applied and my state sent form 1100 to department my occupation was in demand. Rules should be apply which was on that time. Plz advise me I’ll be very thankfully

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      The MRT will have to sort this out I really cannot comment as I would need to see all the paperwork to be able to fully undersatnd what has happened here.

  11. Hi Grant,
    On 8 Feb 2010, I had a pending 485 application. In Sept 2011 I got the 485 as a welfare worker then applied for the 885 welfare worker in Sept 2011. while I was on BVA I was working FT as an accountant and Studying Master of Accounting.
    I’ll have my Master Degree next month in Accounting, I’m unsure whether I should continue to wait for outcome of my existing Appl 885 as welfare worker which do not have a time frame. Or apply for a new one… I’m working as an Accountant for the last 2.5 year for same employer. I also have IELTS S8.5, L7.5, R9 W7.5 in general. Being onshore more than 8 yrs… not knowing when to get the CO or 885 Approval is quite frustrating.
    My employer is an approved Sponsor. Can we two PR application with the Department? if Yes, what can be the option for me please? can I apply for Skilled assessment PR as an accountant under employer sponsor with General Ielts?

    Thanks very much

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Yes you can have more than one application pending. An ENS application (186 new system) will require you to have 3 years recent work experience.
      AS far as I’m aware the Skills assessemnt in Accounting only specifies the general IELTS.

  12. Good Evening Grant,

    I wish to apply for 485 graduate skills visa in October. On the hand before December can i apply for 487 regional family sponsored visa. Is that possible?? Please advise me

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Rijal This visa is still available if that is what you’re asking. Obviously I cannot tell if you are eligible. GW

  13. Hi Grant,
    I have come bac to ask u further questions . I have still not recieved my 485 visa uptil now and its almost 1.5 years. My CO was allocated to me 4 months ago and since then he is trying to complete my routine background check. He told me that once your background checks are complete we will contact u for further documents.
    Last week he contacted me and asked me to get my medical done again,AFP And offshore police clearance. I quickly booked my medical and paid for it. The next day he emailed me that u donot need the medical and overseas police clearance as its still valid for next 6 months as u havent stayed out of australia for more than 2 months. And he mentioned that your Routine background checks are still undergoing. Iam really confused that what is he doing. I only have time till 1st jan to apply for my PR. My occupation is accounting and my points are complete. What shd i do.

  14. Hi Grant I have done my advanced diploma in hospitality management and certificate 3 in commercial cookery. Now I was pursuing diploma in front-line business management but my college cancelled my e-Coe 3 months ago and my student visa has been cancelled also by immigration Australia. The reason was that I was sick and didn’t attend the classes. I have been applied for MRT by 3rd July 2012.
    Respected Grant my question is this.. If I start my study again, is there any chance to get via572 my student visa back ?
    Secondly My lower suggest me to get sponsorship in hospitality through RSMS visa then I can still get legal visa to stay.
    What would be good option ?

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Yes you can study while at the MRT.
      The only way you will your student visa back is to win at the MRT.
      You will have to depart Australia to be able to lodge an RSMS application as you have a s48 bar due to visa cancellation for any onshore application.

  15. Hi Grant,

    I had applied for a Graduate 485 visa in March and was given a bridging visa A. In June, i applied for an 885 visa and about a month later i was granted a bridging visa C, the next best thing, from what you said in one of your earlier posts. As i understand, i now have a bridging visa A as well as bridging visa C, and currently the bridging visa A is in effect.

    I would like to take a break sometime in December and go to my home country for about a month. Assuming that the visas (both 485 and 885) are still under processing at that time (which they probably will be), one way to go is to apply for a bridging visa B. If i do so, and when i leave the country and come back in a month, what would happen to my bridging visa C? What would happen to my bridging visa A?

    I look forward to your reply,


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      You go and come back on the BVB.
      You then apply to have the BVA reinstated – form 1005 and do it by post. BVC is not affected.

      • Hi grant, can u quickly advise me about the BVA. If u get BVB for travel and when I come back do I have to let DIAC know that I m back because I went overseas twice in last 2 years but never inform after came back!!!!
        FYI; Applied 886 FS cook July 2009 no CO yet
        Waiting for reply

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Leo DIAC say No I say Yes use Form 1005 and post it to them to get bthe BVA reinstated. GW

  16. HI Grant,

    I am writing in regards to a friends 487 family sponsored visa application, the application was lodged in July 2009. As I understand it there could still be a considerable wait until the 487 application is allocated to a case officer. The application was applied for via an agent and in which there has been little communication between the applicant and the agent since. At the time the visa application was logged I am hoping that all accompanying documents were supplied. My concern is that three years has elapsed since the application date and further documents will be required. She has failed to put in a tax return for one of the working years. As I understand it the applicant must abide by Australian law, so all paperwork would need to be in order, tax returns ect. Any thoughts on keeping the paperwork in order while she is on a bridging visa and waiting for a case officer to be allocated would be helpful. It seems much more time ma pass before the application is processed and there is more room for mistakes to be made, I will try to convince her of what needs to be done.

    Thanks for your time

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      It’s hard to comment on second hand questions. This person just needs to wait until the case is opened by DIAC and they will then request the documents required to finalise. Just wait.
      The tax return thing won’t be a priblem. Getn them to lodge the tax return now. Simple.

  17. hi,
    i have 485 visa and trying to apply for 885 before 31st December, 2012. Is this new change in priority processing can make any impact on my application of 885 visa?


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Pal If you can apply your occupation must be on the list and these new applications are being processed quite quickly. It will be P3 (I think) anyway in GSM it’s near the top of the tree. GW

  18. Hi Grant

    Bit of a good news here. I was able to change my visa subclass from 886 (family sponsored) to 885 (skilled) on the basis of experience which I gained after finishing my studies. I acted this upon the email received from DIAC for cases lodged prior to 1 July 2010. I applied in October 2009, keeping my fingers crossed……

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Good luck.

    • Hi gags i was wondering if you are also in group 5. I applied for 886 visa and i want to change to 885 on the basis of my experience.. How do i do that. Thanks!!

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Get a good migration agent to advise you on this. Too complicated for a Blog answer.

      • I have seek an agents opinion like 2months ago, but he said its not possible coz my skill is no longer in SOL. So im surprised when i read your blog about you successfully change your subclass. Just to clarify are you also in group 5? I lodge my pr application as cook August 2009. Coz if we have the same circumstance and it is possible to change from 886 to 885, im willing to look for a good agent.

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Zandra I have not said that subcalsses have been changed this was someone reporting this on the Blog I cannot confirm this or that it is possible in your case. GW

        On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

    • Hi Gags, I was just wondering the benefits are for changing your visa subclass? Is it faster if you change to 885? I also applied after I finished my studies with a 886, but have since gained more work experience, but not sure whether I should, or how, to go about updating my application. Thanks for your time!

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        If you are considering this I suggest you get some professional help to assess your options first.

      • Hi Grant/Juliana, can you please tell me what you did to change to 885 from 886. Did you send a query to immigration, or immigration sent you email on their own to change to 885 from 886. Also what documents did you send to the immigration?. Thanks — . Joseph

  19. Hi. I do not have any questions but I just want to share our experience. My family and I have applied for permanent residency (skilled independent) subclass 885 on December 2009 and our application has been put on hold since them. As a lot of you may know, this brings about so much uncertainties and feelings of being treated unfairly. It is just physically, emotionally, and financially draining. It is just hard to start and continue living life not knowing if you are eventually getting that residency or not. There have been plenty of times we wanted to leave and just give it all up. There are also many times I started to doubt our application since we did not hire a lawyer to fix it for us. We just relied on the fact that we gave them all the documents that they were asking for, that all our documents are genuine, and that all our work experiences are true. Anyways, our case officer has contacted us on 17 July 2012 and only requested for new police clearances and medicals. We gave all requested documents on 20 August 2012 and we got a letter of Notice of Grant the following day.

    I am just sharing this because as you may notice in the GSM Allocation date on the DIAC website, it says that they are only processing applications from 17 July 2009. But in truth, they are already was passed that because ours was 14 December 2009.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Thanks Joanne
      I’m sure this will encourage lots of the readers.
      Well done

    • Congrats, thanks for sharing…the time will come :)

    • Hi Jo25..congrats on getting your PR after a long wait. 99% of the details you have given matches with my situation including the date of lodgement. DIAC has contacted me to provide the documents like Medicals and PCC only now thou. I also dint hire a lawyer which I am afraid of now as most of my friends say if we don’t go thru a lawyer, DIAC would suspect us or think the case is not genuine. Can I talk to you pls?

      • hi gr8, message me your email or contact details and i will contact you.

        i am happy to share my thoughts based only on our experience.

        good on you that you have finally been contacted by a case officer.

        just weeks before we were contacted, i was beginning to get paranoid and have contacted a lawyer to apply for a sponsored visa as my husband’s employer was already willing to sponsor him. and just as when we were about to give him a deposit, our contact officer contacted us.

        we still wanted to hire a lawyer as i was unsure if the work experience requirement is satisfied. we were told it was going to be a big gamble. that it is usually always ready to be approved if only medicals and police clearance is being asked for. although, he said, he cannot guarantee approval of courae. and that if we doubt our application, then we may either take the risk of waitibg for the decision cos it is a big possibility that it will be approved. or drop that application, and apply for a new one. it was not an easy decision. we were already willing to drop it and apply for a new one. but we decided we’ve had enough. if australia wants to kick us out, then so be it. we were already tired of waiting and we couldnt waste any
        more years waiting for nothing. so we just said, we will just accept whatever that decision. and good for us, it was a positive one.

        i think what helped also, was thataside from the medicals n police clearance that have been asked, we also supplied a letter of employment from my husband’s workplace. which just proves to show that he is still working in the same trade. so maybe that’s why they have not given time to doubt the work experience requirement we are beginning to doubt ourselves. that’s just my thought.

        i know how frustrating it is, especially when you know that your application is genuine and still working in the same

      • Hello jo25, thanks a lot for your time to give such a elaborate reply to my text. I appreciate it.Not sure how these many points came matching for both of us. Date of lodgement, confusion about appointing a lawyer, present employer letter to prove I am genuine in my field etc etc. I did pre press; hope that also match. Am not sure if we can give our personal details on this blog. My mail id is If you could contact me on my mail ID, I will provide my number or you can give me yours or your husbands. Thanks

        Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:41:39 +0000 To:

  20. Hi Grant,
    We have applied for Skilled sponsored 176 visa on August 2008 and unfortunately its in category 5, do you have any idea till when have the skilled family sponsored category 5 visas have been processed since the places available under this category is limited for the year 2012-2013 .
    Since its been a long wait just wanted to know if we would be lucky this year.



  21. Hello there Grant
    First off let me join the long line of people heaping praise on this excellent, excellent resource for migrants – I cannot believe how much I’ve learned from this, and I though the DIAC website was really thorough! (I know lots of people complain about it, but they need to have a look at many other first-world countries’ immigration sites – you’re lucky to have less than a measly A4 page worth of half-true information in confusing language) You are honestly a great man to be answering all these requests in your spare time. Hats off it’s people like you who make the world a better place.

    Anyway now that I’m here I’ve got a tricky case to ask about – I’ve googled for hours on the subject (it’s 3:50am, yikes) and 90% of advice boils down to “Ask a migration agent”. So here goes nothing:

    The skinny: I am – or WAS – on a 573 Higher Education student visa from Jul 2009 to supposedly a couple days ago. I’m currently overseas and want to apply for a 485 when I return, but have been cornered into cancelling my student visa while overseas (for completely legitimate reasons). I’m now concerned that when I apply for a 485, I will have to starve for 3 whole months on a tourist visa before I get to move to a Bridging Visa and work. I’m desparate for advice on options.


    And now for the long version:
    I originally came in Jul 2009 for a 4-year bachelor’s degree course; I had a visa granted until Jul 2014. In 2010 I changed to a 3-year one that was supposed to go for a full 3 years from Feb 2010 to Dec 2012 – despite prior credits, because I failed one course and so would’ve needed to take one course in my last sem. Instead I took it in summer so I could’ve graduated in Jul 2012 if I stayed in Australia.
    Here’s the catch: I did my last semester overseas. And term finished later than in Australia – in fact the results aren’t even out yet. Which means I will graduate in December, which is fine by me… The conundrum is that I have physically finished all my studies counting towards my Australian degree, but I haven’t actually *completed* them. Not until the results are released and my uni processes them. So I am in some strange limbo where I haven’t finished but I have no more courses to do.
    Along comes my uni saying I am not currently enrolled in any courses (as it’s now S2 in Oz) and so I have to be reported to DIAC. I tell them I haven’t technically graduated yet, they just shrug and say they’re doing their job. Fine.
    Then I talk to Student Integrity and get scared shitless about PIC4013s and whatnot. They said regardless of not having officially complted my degree or not, I am not enrolled this sem, so either they cancel the visa (and I get locked out for 3 years, fun) or I voluntarily cancel it.
    Fair enough, I can’t argue my way out of this and I’m not even in the country so I voluntarily cancel my visa, although I briefly explain my situation and my intent to eventually apply for a 485, reassuring them I’m not out to gyp the system (hence why they gave me some grace time to sort things out, I guess).
    Now I haven’t heard back from them with any kind of acknowledgment or comment yet, but it’s only been 2 days. If they don’t get back in a while I’ll ask them for clarification because I don’t want to get detained at immigration.

    My problem is *this*: upon returning to Australia, after my uni deems I have completed my course, I would like to apply for the 485. Since I have cancelled my student visa I will have to be on a ETA visa. My understanding is however that they are 3 months long from the time of entry and I won’t get a Bridging Visa until after the original visa expires – so that’s 3 whole months unable to work, while spending heaps on tests and skills assessments not to mention living costs. Is there any way around this at all?! The prospect just depresses me utterly especially I already have a casual job I could return to if I had working rights of any sort.

    I’ve heard sometimes you can beg DIAC and they could cut short the ETA/Tourist visa so you get on to a BV immediately, but it’s usually BVE – plead to remove no work and get stuck with no travel – which I’d really rather not get, but would take over nothing at all…

    But I’m wondering if there also isn’t some way of hastening the process, like applying for a non-ETA tourist visa or something 2 months before I actually arrive in Australia so that when I get there it will only be 1 month.

    Would you know if either of these sound plausible? Any kind of help would be tremendously appreciated – I am really at a loss. I’m not even going to go into the thorny question of what occupation I should nominate because that’s even more specific than this description already is (hi DIAC workers!). But I’ll take any advice you’ve got. So many thanks in advance.

    Yours desparately!

    • Oh and now that I’ve read some other comments I’m starting to kick myself in the bum for telling DIAC my intentions upon returning with a ETA/tourist visa… Is it now quite possible they’ll only give me a visa with No Further Stay? I wouldn’t be coming back for just one reason, I do want to see relatives and attend my graduation too…
      But if they give me a visa with No Further Stay do I even have any options left for applying for a 485? I read somewhere that you can apply anyway but end up on a BVC.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      This will not be as simple as you are thinking given all the info you have given to DIAC. You are assuming you will get an ETA. They may not grant you the visa at all.
      Your story is very long and complicated and right now for example there are over 50 questions on the Blog form just yesterday. Basically you need to keep the questions and info managable if you expect me toi have time to read it.

      • Grant,
        Thanks for the reply – yeah, you are right I was kind of ranting a lot there. I wasn’t quite sure how much info was too much, and it’s because the whole thing is so complicated I realise I need help… Sorry about that, I know you have a truckload of comments and are doing this out of kindness. OK, I’ll keep it short and simple as I possibly can:

        1. If one voluntarily cancels a 573 visa while overseas (due to early completion) how long should one wait before applying for an ETA to return to Australia – should I wait for DIAC to confirm first? I’m just worried about one mucking up the other
        2a. Is it advisable to return on a ETA/tourist visa to apply for 485? (I have no other option)
        2b. In your experience is the DIAC wont to slap on No Further Stay conditions on ETA/tourist visas from Assessment Level 1 countries or does it rarely happen – and just confirming, is that a definite, unreversible, unarguable block on applying for any further visa?
        3a. Assuming I get an ETA and put in an application, and wait until the ETA expires, would I be right in assuming I get a BVA?
        3b. Assuming I get an ETA, and put in an application, is it possible to get the ETA shortened afterwards if I claim financial hardship? (I read of one guy who did manage to do this but then got stuck on a BVE)

        Hope that’s not too much. I’d be most happy to know what your thoughts are on 1, 2a and 2b. I’ve already booked my tickets to go back in mid-Sep, haven’t applied for ETA yet as I thought I’d give DIAC about a week to reply regarding my voluntary visa cancellation.

        Cheers and thanks so much again

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        S-D 1. Yes wait till DIAC confirm or it shows on VEVO. 2. You have to be here so any open visa will do. 2b. It is decided on a case by case basis. They look at your file. In normal circumstances no chance of a waiver of 8503. 3. Yes 3b. No. GW

  22. Hello,
    I just wanted to ask few things from you.
    I am currently studying Master of engineering Studies Master of engineering management – software engineering(Master by Coursework) from UTS.
    I am here from the last 6 months
    and i am very worried about the new skill select system.
    Don’t know whether i will get the Permanent residence.. i am investing my life hard earned money in to this course..
    My question is what you think those international students who are studying from reputed university will get higher priority in getting the invitation from DIAC. I applied my student visa according to the new rules of Knight that will give me a 2 years of work permit after successful completion of my studies on time. and at what time i have to show my interest for PR.
    will be hoping to get a reply from you soon.


  23. good evening Grant
    seems like in this fortnights update about allocation of dates they left out the subclass 885 as it still shows the date of 17 July ( same as that in last update )……is there anything to do with the enquiries going on regarding the fake experiences and all that stuff . is it possible that they have stopped the allocation and looking into the already allocated cases …..?

  24. Hi grant. Thanks in advance for all ur effort and time. I have few questions. I had applied p5 885 in june 2010. My wife is here on 485 subsequent enterant visa which expires in April 2013. She is pregnant and delivery is due in Mid Feb next year. It seems that i do not have chances of getting case officer by then. If she goes overseas for delivery , would our child get 485 visa automaticaly or not. And if she decide to stay here , can we sponser a family member at that time and what would be the beat time to do so. When my wife’s visa expires, can we apply for visitor visa and what are chances of getting it. Sorry i forgot to tell u that my wife’s name is not included in 885 app as we were not married at that time. Please give us ur opinion. Thanks a lot. Surinder.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Best if she stays here for delivery and then the child is attached to her passport. It will get a 485 visa when you inform DIAC of the birth – nothing is automatic. Overseas this will be slow and painful but the same thing applies. Inform embassy and apply for child to be given the same visa as mother. In Aust is much easier! Once you get Pr you can sponsor your wife. I’d say she has no hope of getting a VV.

      • Hi Grant. If my wife stays here, the problem is that her visa expires on April 4 which is one and half month after delivery. If i do not get PR by then , it would be hard to extend her stay in Australia. Right now we are paying heaps of money to hospital because waiting period applies with private insurence. Please advice me if there is any way to extend her stay here. Thanks

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        DIAC usually do not permit an expired 485 dependant to get another visa. GW

  25. Hi Grant,
    You might have noticed my posts on your other blogs as well. Referring post of J025 and your subsequent reply, this seems a bit strange. I filed my 885 (priority 5) on 17/12/2009 and have been waiting since then. Very lucky of J025 to get his PR approved (filed in DEC 2009 too). Congratulations to him/her. I was under an impression that dept processes applications with date of lodgements taken into consideration. I also checked allocation dates update, which for 885 priority 5 says 17/6/2009.

    Doesnt this seem strange? I am just unsure if I could get a CO allocated before DEC this year. If not, my family is already forcing me to wrap things up and return back and not worry about PR. I am sure en number of people have shared this frustration with you, like me. Can you please throw some light here?

    Any, any, any chances that the department wishes to get rid of this priority 5 cases before end of this financial year?

    Thanks for your help in advance.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Harshil No I don’t think so and remember sometimes people make mistakes with dates so you really can’t rely on what people say in their posts. GW

      • Hi. I just want to let you know that i am not wrong with my date. We lodged our 885 application on 14 december 2009. I really do not want to give any false hope to anyone. I really don’t know how diac prioritizes the allocation. We are probably just very lucky that we were contacted very early, despite the fact that it it says in their website that they have only allocated applications from 17 july 2009. Good luck to you and i hope you will be contacted soon.

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Jo25 Not questioning you it is just a very common problem and it gets folks all excited and then someones – Oh sorry thats’s 2011 not 2010 and no one reads the correction and I get 50 questions.. Not sure how this happened either but if it works for you that’s excellent. Thanks


  26. Hi Grant! Hope you can help!!! I’m an Australian resident, My partner is currently in Australia on a Family Sponsored visa which expires in 3 weeks, but his hometown he will be returning to is under severe shootings, bombs, deadly clashes and attacks, and I really fear him going back at this stage… Can he apply for a protection visa?
    (he applied for a spouse visa subclass 309 offshore in March 2012 and we are waiting for the application process)

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Yes he can apply – there are no conditions on any visa that prevent an initial Prtioectiion visa application. Get a good Humanitarian lawyer!

  27. Jo25, Maybe difference in applying online and paper based. Did you apply online?

    • We did paper-based application. We already have heard stories that immigration is processing applications a few months further than what is stated on their website but never believed it until ours was processed and the one on the website was not updated. It just came as an answered prayer actually. We were ready to file for a sponsored visa and we were already ready to pay a lawyer, then immigration contacted us that same week. It just came at the right time. I really wish yours will be processed very soon. I know how hard and annoying it is to wait.

  28. That’s great.. Lucky you.. We have applied online in September 2010 so might be a bit of wait still I’m guessing but hopefully our prayers are answered quickly too.. Thanks..

    • Hi there my name is Shane even I applied in sep 2010 just wanted to confirm with u if u have been allocated a case officer or not plz reply any information will be appreciated thanks.

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Shane Not sure who this question is addressed to? No me that’s foe sure. GW

        On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  29. J025, good on you. I am 885 online. 17/12/12 still waiting. The wait is just terribly frustrating. I was hoping that introduction of EOI would speeden up the process, but …………………….

    Oh well – They say hope never dies. DOES IT?????

    • Hi Jo, harshil and Grant

      Firstly Jo congrats..what a relief it wud hav bn.. It actually gave me a scare for once that i perhaps missed intimation that diac mite have sent me in regards with case allocation on my email as I applied for 885 on 19/12/2009 but Harshil’s comment there came as a relief that there are ppl in front of me in the que and still waiting.. Thanks guys

      Hi grant .. I wish i were aware of this blog when i was in sydney so that I could come in person and meet you as it wudve bn sch an insightful session with the queries I have. Any ways I really hope you can help. As mentioned before i am awaiting my decision for 885 sinc Dec, 2009 and hav bn on BVA sinc.. Lately, my girlfriend of two years has come over to australia on student visa 574 and is doing her PhD research here. We are living together as a couple in a independent unit. We are planning to marry soon as we plan to take our relation to the next level but upon doing some research about bridging visas, marriages etc. there are a few things which have been bothering as there is so much ambiguity, moreover after having read and consequently understanding the meaning of defacto relation ships (something which i never knew existed or perhaps never knew the meaning of as in my home country one is either SINGLE OR MARRIED) as it appears that i am in one right now.. To cut the long story shot, i humbly and kindly have the following questions:

      1. A migration agent upon consultation has advised that I have to update my relationship status with DIAC. Is that true and does it affect mine or her visa in any way?
      2. What are the affects or implications if I get married here in Australia and should I avoid doing so if it is going to affect my application or her student visa(I know it is my personal choice to get married but I also dont want our proffesional lives to be jeopardised due to our personal decisions. Moreover also we are planning to get married just to take our relationship to the next level as we both are comfortable in our own space with our individual visas and the decision to marry is not intended towards sponsoring each other)
      3. Grant, what would be the difference between a de facto relationship and marriage in context with my 885 application. How would they affect or to be more precise which one would make matters less complicated if that is the case? Or it doesnt matter?

      Grant I dint want to bombard you with a barrage of questions but its just that i have contacted a couple of agents but each has given me differing info and after having read this blog I beleive I can definitely trust your knowledge and experience regarding immigration matters. Its a shame i dint know your blog existed when I was in sydney as that wasnt long ago and wudnt have minded paying for your amazing service that you surprisingly provide free on this blog. I am more than happy to pay for having these answered and i dont mean to embarass you by offering this cz as it is, you are doing a service not just to us immigrants but to mankind and I SALUTE YOU AND YOUR INITIATIVE as it gives PEACE OF MIND TO DISTRESSED, AGONIZED AND PEOPLE IN DIRE NEED OF HELP AND ASSISTANCE. This world wud b a far better place to live in with more ppl like you. I sincerely hope you are able to take time out to reply to my queries.. Anticipating your reply.
      Thanks.. Regards.. God bless

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Way too long. You need to summarise and try again. I just don’t have time to read such long essay type posts. Sorry. Be brief and ask simple questions.

  30. Hi William,
    I did lodge application 475 july/2008 under family sponsor, office manager & still waiting.
    May I know how many cases are pending before my lodgment date where I can guess to come in 2012,2013 migration program 4200 places?
    My other question is that priority processing update thy mentioned applications for group5 will commence on 10/sep/2012 for 475 visa ( but they already has commence applications for 487 etc but not giving in time table on main page where still december/2008 from long ago, so can we trust on table?
    Hope to read you soon.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      People ask me questions like this all the time. I have no idea. I am not DIAC. I have no special information about their processing timelines. Sorry.

  31. Hi
    I have applied for my Tr back in 2010 but got refused on the basis of missing documents which i have already submitted , i have a MRT case going on since Dec 2011 but no reply yet.
    1 Want to apply for skill select but cant do it as they need my current assessment as mine is valid till 2015 but still.

    2 What if my employer pick me ?do i still need to go through Skill select .

    3 Can i apply for ENS while my MRT case is still in process i am on bridging Visa A

    What else i can do as i have valid experience in my field


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      As you have an onshore refusal s48 applies to you. It does not stop an EOI but you will need to make any visa application from offshore.

  32. Hi Grant,
    Any near future possibility of regular processing of Group 5 GSM 885 class like it used to be before 1 July 2012 meaning at least moving a month every fortnight, as its at standstill now on 17 July 2009. Please advise.

  33. Hi Grant.
    First of all thanx for the updates and replies to all the commnets. You are a good man and not many people helps others these days.
    Just a quick question from ya, I applied for Visa sub 886 (Family sponsored)
    in dec 2009.
    According too the Diac latest update they have limited the processing of family sponsored sublcass coz of limited number of visa places remaining in this migration year,
    Is there any light in the tunnel?? Any clue when my application will be allocated
    thanking you in the advance for the help

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Unfotunately I do not see much light in your tunnel at the moment. It’s a policy decision to go slow for some reason that makes no sense to me. I would have thought it makes great sense to just get all thes old visas processed.

  34. Hi Grant, thanks very much for your time and providing us the blog to share information. I’m a bit puzzled how DIAC is progressing with the 885 and 886 family Sponsor. My cousin got his Cat 5, 886 Family sponsors granted last month, applied in June 2010. Even though DIAC mentioned that they stopped at Dec 2008. I applied 885 in Aug 2011; do you think that DIAC might open the file within this financial year? If that is not likely to happen, then I’ll lodge for a 457 Visa as I will need a visa with an expiry date on hand by Feb 2013. Your comment will be highly appreciate. Thanks very much.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Amy The most common question I get is When? I cannot answer this question as it is DIAC who muddle through the processing. It looks like a mystery because it is. GW

  35. thanks for the speedy response

  36. Dear Grant,
    Well done for your blog. This is a breath of fresh air for thousands of applicants.
    May I ask your opinion on my current situation.

    I’ve been living in Australia since Sep 2004 and applied for 885 visa in Feb 2010 after graduating from a Bachelor of Business at the Australian Catholic University (ACU) and a Masters of Sport Management at the University of Technology Sydney (UTS).

    I’m currently working as a product manager for a multinational company.

    Now here’s the issue. I got married in Oct 2010 (6 months after applying for PR) but unfortunately current immigration laws isn’t allowing my wife to join my bridging visa. Consequently we’ve been forced to live separately for more than 2 years (despite getting married in Sydney) and we are not seeing the end of the tunnel as we have no indication as to when my PR may be confirmed.
    My wife and I have tried to discuss it with immigration officers from the Sydney office. We were simply told that nothing could be done until my PR is confirmed. I’ve also sent a letter to our dear immigration minister Chris Bowen. As you may guess, I’m still waiting for his answer.

    I totally understand that the immigration department has to set some priorities but if we look at it closely how can someone like me (and thousands of others) with Bachelor and Master degrees from an Australian University, working for a multinational company, paying $15,000 tax every year, living in Australia for more than 8 years, with 7.5 ielts mark, with no criminal records and so on… be forced to live away from his wife for more than two years??

    Therefore here are my two questions:
    – Any ideas when Feb 2010 group 5 applications may be processed?? (time frame is fine)
    – How to bring my wife to AUS? (no tourist or student visa)

    Much appreciated.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      The issue is legal they cannot attach an applicant under the Migration Regulations. That is why they say they cannot do anything. They just adminsiter the law they don’t make it.
      The only way is if she gets a visa and I doubt they will grant one as you have a pending PR application.
      How long – no idea as it is totally up to DIAC.

      • Thank you Grant,
        A sponsorship is the only option for us then as DIAC does not give us any time frame for our PR.
        Thanks again.

  37. dear grant,
    i m a regular visitor of this blog and i much appreciate it. i think u r doing a fantastic job by summarizing priority 5 plight so accurately.

    i m june 2010 priority 5 885 applicant. i monitor the fortnightly DIAC update regarding allocation timeframes which currently shows july 2009 date. u have mentioned it several times that DIAC process visa applications thru a team structure where some team(s) may b working ahead of the shown dates. we priority 5 applicants see a lot of contradicting info about the dates and allocation. for eg i saw a fb profile of a priority 5 applicant mentioning he applied in sep 2009 and got CO in april 2012!

    1. out of your client base what is the latest date u have come across
    2. may i suggest u to write a blog wherein P5 applicants can share their allocation dates.

    many thanks in advance grant

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Hi Roy

      Can’t disclose client info in that way – sorry. At the moment I get about 50 questions a day from the Blog and having another stream of posts which I would have to monitor is just not possible.

      The info is contradictory and that is frustrating but I suspect adding random and to be honest impossible to verify reports from P5 applicants may just make it worse.


  38. thts understandable grant thx anyway

  39. Dear Grant,

    I got 475 visa last month which I applied when I first came in Australia in 2008 on student visa. Eventually I finished my study in 2010. Since 2010 I am employed fulltime in Adelaide. My question today is can I lodge 887 now as they ask for 2yrs of stay and 1 yr of fulltime employment or do I have to wait for 2yrs to apply 887?


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      This is what the Migration Regulations say… You have to have lived in the area for 2 years on one of the listed visas.

      The applicant must have lived in a specified regional area for a total of at least 2 years as the holder of 1 or more of the following visas:

      (a) a Skilled — Independent Regional (Provisional) (Class UX) visa;

      (b) a Skilled — Designated Area-sponsored (Provisional) (Class UZ) visa;

      (c) a Subclass 475 (Skilled — Regional Sponsored) visa;

      (d) a Subclass 487 (Skilled — Regional Sponsored) visa;

      (e) a Skilled — Regional Sponsored (Provisional) (Class SP)) visa;

      [(e) substituted/inserted by SLI 2012, 82 with effect from 01/07/2012 – new text – LEGEND note]

      (f) a Bridging A (Class WA) visa, or a Bridging B (Class WB) visa, that was granted on the basis of a valid application for:

      (i) a Skilled — Independent Regional (Provisional) (Class UX) visa; or

      (ii) a Skilled (Provisional) (Class VC) visa; or

      (iii) a Skilled — Regional Sponsored (Provisional) (Class SP) visa.

      [(f) inserted by SLI 2012, 82 with effect from 01/07/2012 – previous (e) with (iii) added – LEGEND note]


      The applicant must have worked full-time in a specified regional area for a total of at least 1 year as the holder of 1 or more of the visas mentioned in clause 887.212.”


  40. Dear Grant, thanks for your prompt response.
    The legal terminology is a bit confusing for me, Can I request you to pls clarify it for me. Pls see below info

    March 2008: Arrived in Adelaide
    Aug 2008: lodged 475
    June 2010: completed study
    June 2010: lodged 885 and got BVA
    Sep 2012: Got 475 approved

    Can I lodge 887 now as they ask for 2yrs of stay and 1 yr of fulltime employment or do I have to wait for 2yrs after I got 475 to apply 887?

  41. Hi Grant, I had left a message earlier but you had asked me to shorten it up..I will give it a try.. I am awaiting my decision for 885 sinc Dec, 2009 and hav bn on BVA sinc.. Lately, my girlfriend of two years has come over to australia on student visa 574 and is doing her PhD research here. We are living together as a couple in a independent unit. We are planning to marry soon here in Australia.. My questions are:

    1. A migration agent upon consultation has advised that I have to update my relationship status with DIAC. Is that true and does it affect mine or her visa in any way?

    2. Can I get married here on Bridging Visa A?

    3. If yes does it have any affect on my gsm visa application. Does it make matters more complicated and thus I would be better off postponing this decision or it doesnt matter?

    3. Is marriage a better idea than just adding de facto relationship on my pending 885 visa application. Which one makes matters less complicated.


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      1. Yes
      2. Yes
      3. No
      4. Makes no difference.

      • Thanks Grant for your reply. I must acknowledge that this is a great forum and an unprecedented initiative. Thanks a lott.

        In response to your reply that I need to update with DIAC about my relationship status, can I do it over the phone or do I need to fill up any form for that?

        Anticipating your reply


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        DJ Always in writing quoting all your relevant ID numbers (Client ID Permission, Request ID, File number) and DOB so it has some hope of actually getting attached to your application. It’s a big system. GW

      • Thanks Grant.. Really appreciate your time and effort.. Kindly advise if there is any specific form that needs to be filled in or if I need to give any declaration stating change of relationship status.


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        No specific form but try using the 929. GW

      • Hi Grant I am sorry if I am asking you too many questions. As I had mentioned earlier that I am planning to marry my girlfriend but after having read another blog of yours in regards with genuine relationship Wherein you have stated that a marriage certificate means little for DIAC as they need to see strong evidence that a couple has been together, i am wanting to make sure I do the right things from the start. We have been living together since she came to australia on a 574 student visa in June

        As i signed the lease before she came, i have her name though as an approved occupant on the lease.
        1.Is that good enough?

        I have her as an authorized person on electricity and internet bills as the respective companies would not issue accounts under joint names.
        2 Would that suffice or do i need to do something else?

        I have a joint bank account and its the same account that I have my salary paid as she is not working due to study load
        Also I have contents insurance under joint names.
        Moreover she has our address on all correspondence in regards with uni, private healthcover etc
        3. Is all that good enough; i mean are we on the right path or should I do things any differently to make a stronger case when time comes?



      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        DJ 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Sounds fine. GW

      • Thanks Grant for your swift response..


      • Hi grant

        Gud day.. A few of my acquaintaces who’d applied for 885 around the time i did have been allocated co’s.. I am 885 , applied in dec 2009, cook, ielts 8 bands and currently on BVA as mentioned earlier.. I had my austrlian federal police check, and indian police clearance done then in 2009 before lodgement. I have visited india a couple of times after that. My query is:

        a) When are these valid till?
        b) is it a good idea to apply again now considering there is some action happening in the background so that my application is kind of decision ready if a CO does get in touch with me?



      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        DJ If in doubt make sure you have new police certificates. They are out of date as they last 12 months only. GW

        Sent from my iPad

  42. Hi Grant..

    Is it possible to do medicals for PR (sub class 885) in advance before being requested or assigned a case officer? As my wife and I want to plan for a kid and if she is pregnant when we are assigned a case officer she won’t be able to do her medicals.

  43. Hi Grant
    Sorry to bother u Grant but my situation getting worse to worst . As I contacted u before my application (886 state sponsered) has been assigned to case officer in march 2012 but there is not any further processing in application , now I rang them last week and they said me u have a new case officer on 5/9/2012 for some reason and she will contact u very soon as u already suffered. But still up to now no body has contact me. I just want u to ask kindly what are my options can I lodge any kind of complaint or not? How can I push them?

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Gurbrinder. You are the applicant they are the Federal government. They have all the power and make all the decisions you just get to wait. It can be a very sad and frustrating system but that is how it is. No you don’t really have any avenue to complain that will make anything happen. GW

  44. Hi grant my 886 state sponsership file was refused in may 2012 reason for that is immi need off list nomination and state refuse to that becouse of policy.i applied in march 2009 and that time my occupation cook was in list .i lodged valid application on that time and diac saying without offlist nomination my file was invalid but offlist is implemented at 1st july 2010 how could affect this rule on my application after that i had approach to immigration minister he said u can apply mrt which i have done already and also he said we don’t need cooks anymore thats way u got refusel .my question is now mrt will consider rules and regulation which was in 2009 when i made application or currant policy becouse according to rules in 2009 they just need form 1100 which is my state already sent

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      The MRT will consider the Regulations at ypur time of application. However the question is did you have the offlist nomination when you applied? If not then you may have a problem.

      • Thanks a lot Grant for your kindness I just want to mention that when I applied my 886 in march 2009 that time was my occupation was on list and for that we need only form 1100 which my state sent in April 2009.offlist nomination was not immi requirement that’s comes into affect after 1 July 2010 but I don’t know why they considered that rule on my case because couple of my friend we applied pr same time,same occupation and same state sponsered and they got approval and my was refused reson for that they ask offlist nomination and state refuse to that and diac said in my refusel latter without offlist minister not accept your nomination so please tell me know how mrt will consider my case still they need offlist nomination which was not requirement time off application in march 2009 thanks a lot your well wisher Neha

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Really impossible to say without seeing all the paperwork. These things can be very complicated.

  45. Hi grant
    I’ve applied my PR in Dec 2011 as a u have any idea when they gonna start allocating..I mean how long do I have to wait for my residency..if u give me a clue that would be appreciated
    Can I go for skill select or not..

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      No I am not DIAC and guessing is not what I do.
      Sorry No idea. Not a question that I can answer.

  46. Hi Grant,
    great blog!! very informative.
    I am currently on a visa A for an 885 application. I lodged a 121 visa through my employer in June but now facing a long wait because DIAC received a large number of application before the 1st of July changes. Would you be able to shed some light on the current 121 timelines and if you think they would stretch out like the 885 did? I thought the 121 had priority processing but it seems its all a long wait after all.

    any information would be helpful.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Adam No it will not be like the 885. I’d think you’ll get some action soon they seem to be getting on top of their backlog. GW

  47. Hi Grant, is it possible to get an appointment with you to discuss our problem? I tried to get your e mail addreess but could not find it? Much obliged.

  48. hi grant I am in priority group 5 on 487 visa if i apply for offlist nomination would it effect on priority group ?? i heard offlist nomination done by state goes in priority group 3 that right ???and how long it takes to get case officer..thanks in advance ..

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      This is a new application and yes if you are eligible then it may change your priority group but you need to check and get professional help to make sure you can apply. Skill Select does allow applications from BRidging Visas so it may be possible. Get some help to check before you apply. My Blog is not here to do that sort of thing.

  49. Dear Grant,
    Hope you are fine. Thank you very much for your kind blog.
    My profession is cook. I have applied for PR (VB 885) on Dec 2009. My TR (VC 485) visa expired on October 2011. After this I am on Bridging Visa ‘C’ (Because, when I lodged my PR application, I was on bridging visa ‘A’, I was not in a substantive visa. Therefore, I have got bridging visa ‘C’). It means, it does not allow me to travel overseas.
    I have had some family problem back in home. So I needed to came back home (Bangladesh) on Nov 2011 for a longer period.

    On 31.10.2012 my file has been allocated with case officer. Case officer asked me to submit medicals, AFP, overseas police clearance within 28days. At the moment I am in my home country. What should I do now? Can I do medicals in my home country by IMMIGRATION PANEL PHYSICIANS? I don’t have any visa to return back in Australia. Now I need to apply for a tourist visa as soon as possible! Any suggestions, please help!

    Best regards

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Roy Yes you can do the medicals overseas show them the request from the CO. The big problem is that you need to be here to get the visa and you must try to get the CO and the local embassy to agree to support your application for a VV. GW Sent from my iPad

      • Hi Grant, thanks for your quick reply. Can you please assist me to lodge tourist visa and any other help to which I require according to my current situation. Please let me know soon! Thanking you sir.
        Best regards

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Roy You can call me after next Tuesday. I am overseas at the moment. Grant Williams 61 2 92114694

        Sent from my iPad

  50. Hi Grant,
    I have a question about my 2 year study requirement …
    I have completed a diploma in management which lasted 9 months(36 weeks) and then i did my bachelors in I.T. (12 units).I got a credit of 12 units in my Bachelors degree.Now, how do i determine that these 2 courses are closely related???Moreover , when i got my degree assessed for System Analyst i sent the ACS my docs for bachelors as well as my diploma??
    Do i qualify for 2 year study requirement??

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      As far as closely related goes I think you may struggle as they come from completely different ANZSCO groups.
      You needs to have 92 CRICOS accredited weeks to meet the 2 year study requirement. I would need to know the CRICOS accreditied weeks for each course to work this out. It is not time spend studying that counts.
      This info is on your COE.

  51. Hi Grant,

    My name is Harshil . Have communicated with you before as well.

    I just got granted my PR. 885 priority 5. lodged on 17/12/2009. My wife is here on a 3 month visiting visa and she flies back to india on 11/12/2012. Given that I am a PR now would you recommend filing for her residency from here before she flies back or after she returns back to india. her application is decsion ready

    Would it be too hard for migration to process her application if i file her papers now saying she is onshore and then when the case will be in process she would actually be in india.

    Please throw some light.


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Harshil That’s good news. I assume she is ona Visitor visa and the question about onshore lodgement depends on the conditions on the VV. If she has 8503 you cannot lodge it onshore. If not you can. GW

      On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  52. Fernando Oliveira

    Dear Grant,

    i applied for onshore 886 in august 2009. In 2010 i left Australia because i was having troubles to find a job, signing contracts and other things that you already know about bridging visa holders (i call homeless visa). I am still in my country (Brazil) waiting for my application to be processed. However i am a bit worried about my situation. Could it be an issue to be considered by DIAC i have left Australia ??


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      It is not a problem being offshore BUT you do need to be onshore for this visa to be granted so you must return before they process your 886 on some visa and then have the BVA reinstated.

      • Fernando Oliveira

        Thanks for the quick reply Grant. However i read somewhere that i should wait offshore until a CO is allocate to process my case. At that point, DIAC would contact me and ask me to enter Australia. Therefore, should i wait for that?? Thanks again. Fernando

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Fernando This is said as sometimes you can use the letter form the case officer informing you that you need to be in Aust for the grant of the visa as help to convince the local embassy to give you a visitor visa so you can return. They do not have to do this! GW

        On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Fernando Oliveira

        Thanks again Grant. One last question: let’s suppose i can get a Visitor’s Visa before a CO is allocated. What happens when the visitor’s visa expire in Australia?? Can i still have a Bridging Visa A reinstated? If yes, can i work with this BVA?

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Fernando Yes but you have to apply for it when you return GW

        On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  53. Thanks Grant. will do as you say, sound like a wise choice.
    My case officer asked for my wife’s medicals and her police clearance, not sure why? would this speeden up process of her dependent residency file?

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Harshil Always do what they ask anything else will slow up the process. GW

      On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  54. Hi Grant,

    Thanks for your blog and and time. My fiance applied for visa subclass 886 and is still in limbo due to priority processing. She is currently on BVA and working in Australia. I am a PR myself. I am thinking to get her on the partner visa subclass 309. As application needs to be lodged offshore, we are thinking to:

    1) Apply for a BVB and travel overseas to lodge the partner visa.
    2) Re-enter Australia while waiting for the visa to be processed.
    3) Once contacted by CO, travel overseas again so the visa can be granted. There is no need to apply for BVB this time round as she can re-enter with her newly granted visa.

    Do you see any issues with doing the above? Thanking you in advance for your advice.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      If you have been in the realtionshiop for more than 2 years you can lodge onshore.
      Otherwise no people do this sort of thing all the time.

      • Hi there Grant, thanking you for time and efforts.
        I applied for visa subvlass 886 category 5 (community welfare)as i was sponsored by my elder sister in dec 2009.
        According to recent immi update they are starting to spoed the allocation proces
        Any idea how long it will take??
        And after completing my studies i havent worked in my own field does it matter to processing/ decision of my app?

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        The work thing does not matter but I cannot tell you about their processing of these applications. They do not tell me.

      • Hi Grant,

        Thanks for your quick response. That’s interesting. Does it mean she can apply for subclass 820? Was reading the booklet and it says applicant maybe not eligible if they do not hold a substantive visa and previous visa has ceased.

        Although there is a note saying “If you do not hold a substantive visa and have had a visa refused or cancelled since your last entry to Australia you can still apply……” but my fiance does not have a visa refused/cancelled since last entry


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Andrew The basic problem is the BVA – applyling form a BV brings Schedule 3 of the Migration Regulation into play. This “bar” to an onshore application can be waived if the relationship is long term ie. greater than 2 years or 1 year with an Australian citizen child of the rleationship. So it is yes if you meet one of those realtionship criteria. GW

        On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  55. hi grant i pass my bachelor in proffessional accounting, unfortunately i can not get 6 in ielts by last of six month , latsly i join diploma of management and i am finishing the course in coming question to you is? can i apply my 485 visa after finishing my diploma of management.hope to get postive response from you. thanks

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Probably as long as DIAC see you two courses accounting and mamangememt as closely related. Generally they would.

  56. Hi Grant, I applied for 886 (family sponsored) visa in Dec 2009 and was getting 120 points at the time of application. Now that visa 885 applications are processed faster, Can I change my visa application to 885, and how do I do it. – Thanks.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Not that simple you need to hire a good agent to advise and assist. Too complicated for a Blog question sorry and not really why the Blog is here. Get help!

  57. dear grant

    the diac is approaching the end of 2009 885 priority 5 pile according to their last update on the fortnightly allocation system. there are no priority 5 applications after 1st july 2010 as the new sol took effect then. does this mean that we will see clearance of all priority 5 885 in few weeks time? or u reckon there are unusually huge number of applications in the first half of 2010 as the old sol was ceasing? i do understand that its impossible for u to guess as it is. however it would be interesting to know about your experience in lodging the priority 5 885 during the first half of 2010.

    thanks in advance for your time.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Kamal Another question I cannot answer – sorry I’m not DIAC. GW

      On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  58. Hi grant,

    Really glad i came across your website.

    I was wondering if you could answer a few questions for me please?

    My fiancé and I, are hoping to emmigrate to Australia, but we aren’t married though we have been together for over a year. i believe we may struggle trying to prove the validity of our relationship? We got engaged in June 2012, we have a joint savings account together, holidays together, but we don’t live together as we were saving for a house, but we have now since decided that we would like to move to Australia.

    Do you believe we would have any difficulties in proving our relationship is genuine? We are both uk citizens.

    We are both living with parents still and i stay over every weekend at his. We also meet up during the week for nights out i.e cinema, meals, comedy shows etc.

    We are hoping to apply for 190 state sponsorship but dont want to do that if there is a high chance of the defacto relationship being rejected.

    your reply is much appreciated.


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      No you do not qualify as you are not living together.

      • Thanks for your reply Grant.

        I am very grateful you replied though it wasn’t the answer I was hoping for :(

        If I move to his place but we pay his mum rent n bills back will this be enough or does the bills have to be in our joint names? The only reason we don’t want to commit to buying a house in uk is we really want to work and settle within australia. Plus we are saving up. We have talked about this so much and we really don’t see our life being in the uk. Will living with my fiancé’s mum be ok or will we not qualify?

        Is there any other way we can apply that can get us both over to Australia? My fiancé has skills which are on the sol list whereas my skills are not on the list (web admin). Therefore applying separately is not feasible as only my fiancé will have a higher chance of being successful.

        We have photos and a lot of etickets to prove we have been on holidays together. How do we get these validated?

        Hannah :)

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Yes you can pay bills and rent this way.
        I do not make application assessments on the Blog. If I did the number of requests would become impossible.
        Each country has it’s own system for Notarising documents – Google it but I’m sure it will be a Justice of the Peace or Public Notary.

  59. Hi grant.. How r u??.. Theres a great news that I have just been contacted by my case officer.. I was asked to provide the routine clearances and medicals which I have done.. I was reading an earlier blog entry in reply to Jo25’s comment that the individual was advised by his/ her frends that seeking assistance of a migration agent could have a negative affect and portray a fishy sort of impression in the eyes of a case officer.. I am asking this as Although I lodged my own application online but now that i have been contacted by my case officer I have sought the services of a migration agent to take over the case so that I leave no stone unturned as it means my future, my career, my life.. I just dont want to take any chance whatsoever..

    My only query is does it hold true that seeking services of a migration agent may have any impact whatsoever on the case officer and my application? (Upon querying my migration agent with the same concern, in a very humorous way I was told that they could even think that you are trying to do the right thing as migration agents are experts and would make sure that you dont committ any mistake which might prove devastating, in a nutshell i was told its all speculation).. Just want second thoughts from you if i may please.. I shall be highly obliged.

    Thanks a lott grant.. Cheers!!

    • If you’ve done the right things, and genuine supporting document why fear? Migration agent are expert in their field, would be wise to consult them for an application and appoint them to prepare the applications. Due to personal circumstances, some people can’t afford…. anyways wanted to share that I applied my visas in the past and been granted. It took me a very long time to study the immi website and info available. Guys if you can afford, take the services at the beginning…

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      DJ No that’s just rubbish. Getting advice is a right and a good thing. GW

      On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Hi Grant

        Your statement surely holds true. To my absolute pleasure I have been granted my permanent residency today and thats exactly after 9 days of my agent submitting all the required docs. I am euphoric to say the least. Thanks a lott Grant. This blog has been an absolutely fantastic platform and you are doing great karma. Thanks a lott once again

        Warm regards

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        DJ Congratulations Grant

        On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Thanks Grant.. you have greatly helped with your swift responses to any query directed towards you.. I now need to now apply for partner visa for my wife (I got married on 28th Nov, 2012 here in Australia) who’s on her student visa(574 phd). I would like to avail your services to apply for the same although I am in Brisbane if that is possible. If you could let me know what is the best way to get in touch with you.



      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Dj Yes it is possible I do application for people from all over the world. Last week people came from Brisbane and Perth to Sydney to see me. However this is not always necessary. Call me after 11.00am on Tuesday (tomorrow) and we can discuss the position. Mobile will be best initially. Grant Williams JP 195363 Registered Migration Agent MARN 0854799 Immigration Pty Ltd Suite 35 / 647 – 649 George St Sydney 2000 PO Box K1221 Haymarket NSW 1240 Telephone: +61 2 92114694 Mobile: +61 (0) 430351877 Email: Blog:

        On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  60. Hi grant I completed my bachelor in professional accounting . Unfortunately due to lack of six I cannot apply 485 visa . And just one months before the 6 month window ,that means after 5 months of my complemention letter of my bachelor,I applied the diploma of management and I got the visa now my question is can I apply my 485 visa after the diploma and I m going to finish it in April 2013. And I also heard that from jan 2013 there is no existence of 485 visa . Is that true? Hope to get response soon thanks.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      The two courses need to be closely realted to be able to meet the Aust”n Study Requirement. This may be OK. What occupation will you nominate?
      As to the 485 not exactly sure as they are anticipating the new student to work visa but no details yet.

  61. Thanks grant I m nominating management accountant anzsco code 221112. Does it sounds ok . So it means it only for the new student , it does not affect me yes?

  62. hi grant, i applied my 485 visa without 6 in ielts due to the cause of my friends and lastly when i visit consultancy they told me my visa will be refused so i applied my master now and i got the visa and i withdraw the 485 visa my question is can i apply my 485 visa after completing my master again plz let me know hope to get positive response from u thanks

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Possibly if the current study is closely related to the previous study and you can then meet the Australian Study Requirement.

  63. Hi William,

    i m eligible for 60 points only for 885 application as of now? , and
    i have booked for Naati exam in order to claim community language point, but the processing time for this exam is alomost 6-10 weeks,
    so my question is , can i attach the booking receipt in my application to claim the point. do i have to appear for test and obtain result before lodging.
    or can i claim the same through skill select, or have to wait for result ??
    looking forward for your reply

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      I’m Grant not William No you cannot you have to have sat the exam before you apply to be able to claim the points (and of course have the successful result when they ask for it). You can claim it but you must have it on the date of invitation to apply and you have no control over that date. I’d wait until I had it. GW

      On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  64. hi grant
    u know thesedays lots of applicants in problem because of 1100 form u have a idea what “s immigration gonna take a dision abt these applications.{ state didnt send 1100 form 2009-2010 applicants.]plzzzzz help me grant…………

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Veer If DIAC do not have the 1100 form there can only be one outcome – refusal. When? No idea sorry. GW

      On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  65. Hi grant,
    While applying for gsm 885 visa, in the application form,Do we need to write each and every address we lived within our home country or just enough to write the permanent add only? Because we lived in different places few months here and there.
    Thank you very much.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Rosie the question asked in the form is quite specific and you should answer the question in full not just how you would like to answer it.

  66. I’m one of the priority 5 (lodged in 2009) and I’ve been hoping against hope that my case gets processed. I’m a single parent and have just finished my masters degree here recently in order to keep upgrading my skills. When I return home next year, both my little son and me will need to look for a flat because I’ve sold off my flat in order to relocate to Australia. Not for myself, but so that my son gets a better education. But what can one expect from a country that only knows to say sorry after treating people (ie aborigines, forgotten Australians) like shit? So I’ve practically given up.

  67. Hello Grant,
    Thank you for setting up and answering the blog room.
    Even I m one of the frustrated victim of priority group 5 , currently looking for a light in the dark tunnel

    Two simple question,
    I have applied Permanent residency on 886, June 2009, can I see some light in early 2013?
    Can I add my spouse, on my current 886 application ?

    Thanks Heaps

    A Singh

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      They are saying that they will clarify 886 applicants position 15 Dec 2012 – not really sure what that means it’s a little hard to know. This may only be in relation to the sponsorship by State ot Territory not relative as form 1100 has been a huge problem for many of these applications.
      So don’t know really.
      I do not believe this is possible and you will need to sponsor after the visa is granted but I have haerd of people trying to do this as the circumstances are so strange and the processing time so long.
      <Maybe worth a try as a change in circumstances.

  68. Hi Grant,
    I have a question regarding adding a de facto partner to my 189 visa application. Are there any rules about whether the de facto partner needs to be onshore or offshore at the time of lodging the application ? I recently received an invitation for the 189 and since my partner’s student visa expired in March’12 so he returned to France. But he is currently visiting me for the holidays in Australia on an eVisitor visa and so we are getting his medicals and AFP Police checks done here itself. But I was wondering whether I can lodge our application while he is still onshore or do I have to wait for him to return to France first ?
    Thanks for your help !

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      These new visas have no onshore offshore designations. If you lodge while he is here on an open visa then like you he will get a BVA to remain until the application is finalised.

  69. Hi sir i applied for PR iN april 2010 in family sponsored case but still i m waiting could u tell me hw much time.i have to.wait when i will get my PR. Plz. Reply me thanx in anticipation

  70. Hi Grant,
    I am here in Australia on Graduate visa (TR) that is going to expire in May, 2013. If I could not maintain 60 points to satisfy Diac’ s conditions to lodge EOI till then can I switch over to other visa like based upon my daughter who was born here in Australia and going to be 4 years in January. Unfortunately, I am still ineligible for regional state sponsorship ORANA area of NSW. can I extend my stay in any way which can provide me time to clear Natti. or complete professional year from now. or daughter’s education. Or is it certain I will have to leave Australia at the first level in /may, 2013

    I look forward to hearing from you soon.
    Thanks in advance.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      I have no idea what visa you are referring to in relation to your daughter. There is no such visa.
      If you want to stay you have to apply for another visa. They will not give you avisa to clear NAATI and I do not think your dau=hter can get a student visa. If you do not get a new visa you will have to depart.

  71. Hi Grant,

    Hope you are well.

    I have got a very quick question for you.

    I am about to apply for my updated Australian and Indian Police checks as I have submitted my 885 Visa application in June 2010 and DIAC website confirms they are at Mar 2010 now

    I am going to Fiji for holidays at the end of January 2013 for 1 week.

    Say my file is not opened before my holidays – Is it okay if I get my Australian Police Clearance certificate before I go to Fiji to save time or should I wait as am concerned that DIAC will ask me to do Australian Police Check again as I have left the country

    Please advise if possible

    Thank you very much

  72. Hello,
    My husband has submitted 885 visa application inJune 2010. (Paper Application). Now DIAC update of 20tth Dec shows application allocated upto 20th March 2010. But they have given a note that paper application are not allocated after 05th Feb 2010.
    Is it that, it has been limited upto that date or they will start allocating case officer for paper applications once online applications are finished. Kinldy guide us on the same.


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Sanjivani I have no idea. Everyone assumes I somehow know what DIAC are thinking. I don’t sorry. I’d have to see the actual wording. Send me the link. GW

      On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  73. This is the link

    Visa Subclass Priority Group 5
    885 Skilled – Independent 20 March 2010**
    ** Allocation of paper lodged subclass 885 applications is limited by the number of applications in higher priority groups. Paper lodged applications received after 5 February 2010 have not been allocated.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Sanjivani OK that is quite simple it just means that nothing lodged prior to 5 Feb 2010 has been allocated to a Case Officer. That these files are yet to be opened. GW

      On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  74. daer mr Grant
    i was refused for 485 visa because of linked course,but mrt remits the case and DIAC approved 485 visa,then i applied 885 visa.
    my question is will DIAC definately refuse me again for same cause(linked course)?how is the chance to refuse?
    thanks a lot & merry christmas

  75. Hey Grant,
    love your work! I have a couple of queries and a very ironic situation. I currently have two application running with DIAC. 885 lodged online on the 21st of March 2010 and was informed yesterday that I have a case officer when I went into DIAC’s offices in Melbourne to apply for a BVB but they didn’t provide me with his details. After waiting long I managed to lodge a 121 (offshore ENS) on the 20th of June 2012 and have been assigned and contacted by a case officer who requested medicals and police clearances which I supplied on the 21st of December. Two visas, both assigned a case officer in the same month!

    When I got back home from DIAC yesterday, I opened the online visa enquiry system and found an update “email sent to you” after the bridging visa granted update but I did not receive anything in my inbox although my email address was validated with DIAC. I decided to send an email with the medicals and police clearances that I finalised to the gsm email on the hope to have everything ready for the 885. I also thought perhaps I should call immigration on Monday and ask speak to the case officer and enquire about the email sent and any pending documents to finalise the application.

    My questions are:
    1. Should I call DIAC and ask to speak to the case officer and talk to him or would it be perceived as my trying to push things or perhaps being pushy? I have waited all that time, don’t want my excitement to further delay things.

    2. What is the process once a case officer receives the medicals and clearances? Do they run additional checks or would they be in a position to make a decision on the application. I heard people getting approval (or pre-approval letters in the case of the 121) in a few days or almost the next day and a few people having to wait a few weeks. I understand you are not DIAC but appreciate if you can shed some light from your experience in lodging applications and specifically for a high risk country if any.

    3. If granted Permanent Residency I intend to try and get my parents to move down here. I understand it is a somehow complex application and requires finances in some instances. Is this an area you have expertise in and if so, can I contact you on the above mentioned details to discuss. I am based in Melbourne.

    Appreciate your assistance.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Adam Yes contact them and initially ask about the email. You should get an update then anyway. Yes the approval pre-grant should be very soon and may even be the missing email. Parent visas are a pain, simple idea but needs to be assessed. Yes contact me once you get the PR sorted. GW

      On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  76. I there I have applied for 885 visa on the basis of 65 points 30 age, 10 ielts (7 each) , 15 education as I have done masters in commerce from university of ballarat, 5 two years study, 5 one year australian experience as accountant ie 65 but I got letter from case officer saying that I cannot claim 15 points for education as Masters from Uni of Ballarat is not at least to a level of bachelors degree as per the australian standards, this is wrong understanding by the co what should I do now , I have already submitted CPA assesment can u help….

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      The question may be do you have a Bachelor degree that sits behind the Masters degree that is equal to an Australian Bachelor degree. If not then they will not count the Masters degree.

      • Hi there I have done Bachelors of Arts ( English literature) from India and then masters from aus. But CPA has assessed my master and the outcome was that my masters degree is equivalent to atleast bachelors degree in Australia and I have also completed 12 units

      • Hi there I have done Bachelors of Arts( English literature) from India and then Masters from Aus but I have applied 885 on the basis of Aus degree and which CPA has approved being equivalent to atleast a bachelors degree as per the Aus standards…..

      • Can u plz give me suggestion or it direct email

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Karan 3 emails The question is not about your Master’s degree it is about your Bachelor degree. DIAC look at the Bachelor behind the Masters and if it is not equivalent to and AQF Australian Bachelor this is where the problem lies. GW

        On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Hi I have letter from my Uni saying that my bachelors degree is as per the aqf level 7 and cpa has said this too now I am going to submit this tomorrow and see what the co says thanks for reply

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Karan Yes I know that but that is not the point they are making to you. But give it a go it may do the job. GW

        On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Hi Grant,
        I applied for 885 visa on the basis of master degree and the Uni gave me admission on the basis that I had bachelors from India which is equal to aqf level 7 so y not can u detail but more so I can understand it u r opinion is going to help me lot

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Karan All I am trying to say is that DIAC and your case officer must conclude that your Bachelor degree is AQF = to give you the points you want. You said they were questioning this and I am trying to explain why. If you give them this info it should be OK. GW

        On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Thanks for your reply I now understood what the co is trying to say and understand your point and I am submitting documents today clearly stating this point that my bachelors from India is equal to AQF also Uni of ballarat is ready to call co and explain but at this stage I am just sending letters and will only ask Uni to call co if needed plz wish me luck thanks

      • Plz reply thanks

  77. Hi Grant – Has been a while. Just wanted to let you and readers know that my residency got granted on 31/12/2012. File lodged: 17/12/2009. Details : 885 with Commercial Cookery (study). Filed with 8.5 bands overall and 7 individual. Case officer allocated on 7/11/2012. surprisingly case officer asked for my wife full medicals and police clearance certificates though she is not listed on my visa. Last document remaining submitted on 30/12/2012 and got residency granted very next day.

    I sincerely thank you for all you help. Keep up the good work.
    Cheers – Harshil

  78. Hi Grant,

    This is Sahrahi, Afghan. In Dec 2012 I lodged my application for Offshore Humanitarian Visa Subclass 201, I am really under pressure in my home country, just to know how long it may take to hear from the processing centrr, what are the ways to contact them please help.


  79. Dear Grant,

    How are you? After reviewing every forth nightly update on the allocation table by Diac website,
    It seems the 886 category 5 will only get updated in the coming financial year which will be June 2013,
    Could you please advise the recent update on 886 category 5? Thanks

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Angard No sorry I’m know as much as you do. Nothing. I assume they will eventualy process these applications but I have no insde info on when. GW

      On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  80. Hello Grant,

    Thank you for your swift response

    My application was done via a migration agent and lawyer who has over 10 years of experience in the field. I just hope I will get the result expected.


  81. Hi Grant sorry to bother you again, but I have another question.

    On my record of responses from the 885 application in 2010, it has asked whether I had worked in the field I applied to or a field closely related to it, before my application.

    There are more points attributed to someone who has been employed in the field.

    My question is this, I have been employed as from November 2009 till date into a field closely related to my PR.
    Do you think that this sort of experience will play in my favor?


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Nina You can get points for work experience but I cannot assess this from the very general info you provide I assume your experinced agenty has done this and provided work references to claim the points if it is possible. GW

      On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  82. Hi! My husband was given a 487 visa and last june 2012 he applied for my visa. After 2 weeks a case officer gave email and informed us about the documents needed.we submitted everything except for the medical because I was pregnant at that time. After giving birth last year I was diagnosed a post partum cardiomyopathy. After a month of medication my cardio said I can undergo medical me and my baby went through it last november. The problem is until now we don’t have visa yet. I emailed the CO and she replied that my medical result is still under investigation. How long for them to make a decision to approve our visa? Since I submitted a written letter from my cardio tjat my heart is improving. Hope u can help me to understand what is really happening? Will I get a visa? Tnx

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      This can take many many months and then if they object that the cost is more than the limit you will have more of a fight on your hands. Just because your doctor is happy does not mean that the Commonwealth Medical Officer will be.

      • Thanks for the info Grant, but my heart condition is not contagious which means I will not spread a disease so just wondering why they took so long to decide? … Just feeling sad now for me especially for my baby, still hoping that we will be reunited soon with his father :)

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Rachel It is not a question of contagion – DIAC assess the cost of your condition to the Australian community over the life of the visa or residence. if that cost is greater than the limit set ($35000) then this will trigger a possible refusal on medical grounds. Medicals are certainly also looking for applicants with disease issues like TB and HIV bu t in the end the medical decision is cost to Australia as assessed by the Commonwealth medical officer. GW

        On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  83. hi grant i applied my 485 visa without the ielts results due to sugessition from my friend. but later when i visit the cunsoltancy i came to consulsion that the visa get refusede so later i applied my student visa and i got the visa, now today i got the refusal letter of my 485. and i m finishing my master in professional accounting in june. my question is can i again apply the 485 visa after finishing the course. before i did bachelor in professional accounting. hope to get positive response

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Suraj Hoping to get a positive response does not change the law! However in you situation as you hold a visa s48 will not apply and you will be able to apply again while on the student visa. Gw

      On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  84. Hi Grant,

    Thanks for making us applicants tension a little more relieved.

    I would like to ask you that it has almost been 4 yrs now since I have applied for a visa 475 VF under priority 5 i.e. 23 September, 2009 as an Office manager.

    Thay say they have started processing priority 5 visas but the website shows
    that allocation still not commenced for 475. When will they start processing
    this visa . How long more will we have to wait, as other visas have allready commenced. Why this punishement for us. Havent we paid the same amount
    of fees required . And if the rules were to change it should have been for the current applicants not the ones who had applied earlier., or else they should bave rejected our applicantion at that moment and apared us of the mental torture.

    Thanks for your time.


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Lancelot Not sure what makes you think I would know when DIAC will do this if DIAC are not saying! I agree it is not acceptable but they are in charge and they make the rules. GW

      On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  85. hi i apply for 885 visa and my case open 3 dec 2012 i gave them all document what ever case officer ask for but m still waiting for its near 9 week and my agent email them but they haven’t reaplly yet can u help me i vl much your thank ful

  86. Hi Grant thanks in advance. My visa 886 was refused in July 2012. Which I applied in may 2009 reason for that was 886.222 minister not accepting my nomination Becoz my occupation not in demand at the time of decision but today on diac website they going to process all state sponsership application . My question is my application is in mrt now.should I write to mrt for prority ? What u think will I get prority in mrt? What should me do or how long this process can be. Thanks

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Neha No you do not meet MRT priority guidelines. GW

      On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  87. hi grant i am in MRT now currently i finish my bachelor in professional accounting last October. unfortunately my file to open get delayed and they open the file yesterday. now i am almost ready to apply for my 485 visa. but they asked my current enrollment for the course. but i already finish my course . currently i have no any enrollment in a course. so please advice me what should i have to do . i am looking forward to hearing from you soon . thanks

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      If you had a student visa refused and that is what the review is about they cannot remit the application if you are not cureently enrolled. You need a COE immediately.

  88. Hi Grant

    just wana know how much time CO can take to finalise 885 (Applied in Aug 2009) visa? My case Officer assign on 15 june 2012 (almost 8 months) and still waiting for answers. He sent an email in september that your documents are complete waiting for National Clearance what does that mean?
    your response in this regard highly appreciated.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Lucy This means a security clearance – from police and this can take a long time depending on where you come from. I am always asked how long? and as I have said many hundreds of times I do not know and there is no average time as all applications are assessed individually. GW

      On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  89. hi grant can i apply 485 visa twice. before i applied one it get refused and currently i m doing bachelor once i finfish my course can i apply 485 visa.waiting your reply thanks

  90. Hi Grant,

    Thanks for your help as usual. As I have just gone through the problem of Neha 886 visa refusal and that her occupation was not on the list.
    I am scared because I have also applied in 2009 as Office manager ASCO Code – 3291-11 and it was on the MODL list at that time and now it isnt. But I have cleared my VITAASSES and it was positive and that is why I applied and I am also making the 100 points as give for requirement.

    They have also given me a file no and a TRN no and client ID.

    Can they refuse the visa still . If so why they have given a file no. Do they not check the details before sending a file no if the documents are incorrect.

    Appreciate your guidance . Thanks


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Lancelot Yes they can and just being able to lodge a valid application does not mean you have met all the visa criteria. They only check that when they open your file. GW

      On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  91. hi grant i am mrt for student visa refusal and i got the letter saying that i have to attained hearing .my question is does they make the decision on that day or some other day after hearing. thanks

  92. hi grant can i apply 485 visa twice. once i apply before but it get refuse because i applied without ielts but i m now in student visa and i m completing my course on this june so can i apply my 485 after finishing the course. thanks

  93. Hi Grant,
    I applied for 176 visa and my application was refused because I did not meet the IELTS requirement of band 6 in all categories.. Together with the refusal letter the CO told me that I can have my case reviewed by MRT. My question is what is the chance of success for my case if I will opt to have my application reviewed by MRT? IELTS results – 5.5, 5.5, 5.5 & 6 only.


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Zero. You cannot win at the MRT the law requires that all sponsored refusals are offered the opportunity of review. I say again you cannot win.

  94. Thanks Grant for your reply. It helps a lot.

  95. Hi grant my 886 visa approved last week which I applied 2009 skilled sponsered . I got married in July 2010 and my wife came in Australia on 485 spouse dependent and in December 2011 I applied 885 to include my wife to keep her here. And we both got bridging visa. Looks like for 885 still we have to long wait can I apply on shore spouse visa for my wife? Will she get bridging visa . Because she sill hold bridging visa for 885.i am thinking I will withdraw my 885 if she get bridging got spouse dependent . Thanks a lot

  96. Dear Sir, I have a problem here that I would like to discuss with you, I have a case officer for my VC 487 lodged in may 2010 , i got married in march 2011 and then lodged another joint application VC 885 with my wife in june 2011 and we both have a bridging visa A at this point of time. My case officer who is looking into VC 487 which is my single application, without my wife has now asked documents for my wife also ie health check , AFP and PCC

    Now the problem here is that I will have to pay $4250 if I add my wife in the 487 application, which I do not want to spend because once 885 is processed (hoping another 6-8 months )we will get our PR.

    I want to ask you that while I have co working on my application , do I still need to pay the fees to add my wife or she can be added without providing any additional fees.

    secondly, If i have to pay the fees, can I ask my case officer that I do not wish my wife to be added in the application 487 if that is possible.

    Please advise , I am preety confused at the moment.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Are these English language fees you are talking about?
      I’m not sure you can add your wife to the origibal application but DIAC will request medicals for all family memebers even if they are not migrating.

  97. Hi Grant , Thank you for your reply, the fees I was taking about is the fees which we pay when we add a secondary applicant. so, even if she is not added in the application we have to still provide the medicals and police clearence and she can be added once I get the visa grant.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Harry No idea what you mean here have you actually discussed this with the case officer? You can’t add anyone once a visa is granted. You can apply for a visa for them – separate application. GW

      On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  98. Hi today I got hearing on my refusal of student visa. At hearing case officer say I will get the visa the problem is I hav to apply 485 visa but I got just two more months. So I hav to wait the visa from diac to apply and how long it take to grant the visa

  99. hi grant

    i have both afp and indian pcc dated may 2012. would they be still valid if i get a case officer in feb/mar 2013?


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Kamal Yes GW

      On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • hi grant
        forgot to mention i was in india for 2 months and my wife for 3.5 months during xmas.

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Kamal Found you last post no it makes no difference but DIAC could if they wish request a new Police Cert at any time in these circumstances. However unlikely. GW

        On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  100. hi grant,
    i had completed diploma in commercial cookery and applied for visa subclass 886 in december 2009, but still nothing is going on with application. And the other main problem is like I had cancelled my leading to degree course , so they had put me on bve subclass 050 and stopped my flying rights , so couldn’t travel back to my home country since i had been here, so is there anyway to visit my motherland as it had been like 5 years and 5 months now. i know it will take time to process application and ready to wait, just need to visit once desperately.
    Please advise what can be done?

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      No you cannot travel on a BVE. Soory no way around this problem.

      • Prakash Parmar

        thanks grant for your reply, you are awesome…..
        what do you recon about the time taken to process those applications? and don’t you find it funny that we had applied in dec 2009 and due to a change (law) passed on july 2012 we are suffering and keep on waiting like this?

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Prakash P5 processing times are still really a mystry. No idea apart from what DIAC publish. GW

        On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  101. Hi Grant,
    Its me Irina. I am on GSM visa, granted on Nov 2012. I have applied for the spouse visa and medicals already done on 1st week of Jan 2013(he is in overseas). Now, I’m just waiting for the reply. But just wondering, how long does it usually take to get visa finalise after medical’s done?
    Please advise. It really feels like a long wait.
    I would be very grateful for your help.
    Thank you.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      I am constantly asked how long and I cannot say as I am not DIAC. Sorry but refer to the average processing times quoted at the embassy where you lodged the application or call them.

  102. Hi grant I have student visa that expire on 23 June 2013. Actually, I want apply for the dependent visa of my wife who lives in Nepal. We are newly married couple. I’m somewhat confuse that can I aply the visa for my wife or it matter I can not because its just a 4 months more for the expire of visa

  103. hi grant
    forgot to mention i was in india for 2 months and my wife for 3.5 months during xmas.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Kamal I get hundreds of emails every couple of days I cannot link this up so I have no idea what this is realted to??? GW

      On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  104. Jennifer Collins

    I am from Philippines and currently here in Perth, my daughter and I lodged our subclass 300 last apr 3, 2012 and granted a visa sept 12, 2012. We came here in Perth Sept 26,2012. Got married November 10,2012.Applied for visa 820/801 on february 11,2013 at Perth DIAC and recieved visa grant notice for Partner(temporary) ( class UK ) Partner (subclass 820) february 22,2013. We lodged our applications using help from a migration agent here in Perth from subclass 200 to subclass 820/801. Best of wishes to all the applicants, I think a decision ready applications still helps a lot :)

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Yes it does but all you are really measuring is that Perth is an office with many less applications. They are sending NSW applications now to Perth to be processed to even up the work load and shorten processing times which are over 15 months in NSW.
      Thanks for the comment.

      • I apply for 885 visa three ago and they open my file I put my wife name and she is oversea and case officer asking for my wife medical and police check from over sea Can u tell me why thanks sir

        Sent from my iPhone

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Nav Police check is a security thing I assume like all police checks – this is normal as she is on the application. Medicals are requested for all migrating and non-migrating near relatives , spouse and children. Again normal. GW

        On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Hi,I got one more question I feel my wife D.O.B wrong after that I feel 1023 form I email to case officer but hasn’t any reaply or any update from case officer coz I need happa I’d for medical can u tell me how long it’s take to update Thanks a lot

        Sent from my iPhone

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Nav They will not get back to you about this. They just attach the form to your file. GW

        On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  105. Jennifer Collins

    oopps. sorry, I stand corrected on subclass 200, subclass 300 not 200 sorry :)

  106. Nav can you tell me which day did you apply for your 885 visa and your occupation as well if you dont mind me asking??

  107. Hi Grant,
    Harshil here. Have written to you before.
    My brother has filed his EOI;s as 190 (70pts), 489(75points). I am a resident here and my brother is already a chef working in a restaurant who are ready to provide him an offer letter of 12 months.

    I have 2 questions.
    1. When we go to WA state, what application do we apply for to get sponsored 190 or 489? Which one will get us a residency quicker?
    2.Also would our next step be to apply to wa state for sponsorship?


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Harshil No idea which will be quicker but I would guess 190. I would have tohought you should have applied to WA before lodging the EOI. So yes. GW

      On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  108. Dear Grant

    I had applied a skilled migrant visa (sub classs 175) on Dec 11 on my own without any lawyer from India. CO was allocated in May 12 and all went well until my wife’s medical was referred on the 2nd of Dec 12. There seem to be no medical complications except that the X-ray was done post delivery of our Baby. Out CO mentioned a 3 month delay before our case got to the CO and we have been waiting since then with the same updates that there is an indefinite delay at Global Health. Wanted your advise on:
    1. What are the current timelines for refereed cases with Global Health.
    2. Can we apply for any priority processing.
    3. If the Visa is ever the first entry date requirement on the Visa roughly a year from when the medicals were done or calculated from the date of Visa grant.

    Thanks for your time on this

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Why does everyone assume DIAC work to si=ome timetable? They do not. You kust get to wait until they pass the medical info on for assessment. There is nothing you can do. There is no such thing as priority processing in this situation. The first entry is usually a couple of months from visa grant.

      • Hi there can anybody plz tell me if they receive CO for p5 applied aug- sep 2010 any answers much appreciated thanks.

  109. Thank You Grant
    Appreciate your responding to my query. Would be patient and wait to hear on the medicals.

  110. Hi Grant
    I have a different question so if you could please provide your advice or suggestion :
    I applied for 886(relative sponsored) in Dec 2009 through online system. But then i forgot my online password at that time, so i could not attach the family sponsorship document from my brother.
    I met the point test with 110 points (100 required).
    Now at that time, i was adviced by DIAC phone representative that once the case officer is allocated, they will ask for the required documents. But my friends suggest that i should have attached

    My question is “Can this scenario would affect my application as i did not submit all my forms at time of application”.

    I would really appreciate your help.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Generally DIAC will request the document. I think you could easily have discovered your password or had it reset.

  111. Thank you Grant, you are a Good Man !!

  112. Good morning Grant,
    I have gone through your blog and its great way to help people, firstly i would like to appreaciate your effort in helping people. Secondly, I would like to ask a question that I applied my GSM 885 visa application on 14 Nov 2011 with ICT BUSINESS ANALYST as occupation accessed by ACS and Case officer assigned on 14 Dec 2011 after a month. On Immigration website it says Priority 4 Group (885) processing time 18 months. Is that true in every case or they can took longer then that. as I have almost now been waiting for 17 months.

    your help in this regards will be highly appreciated.

    Regards, Faran

  113. Thank you very much Grant for your prompt reply. :) FARAN

  114. Aslam
    Hi Grant,
    I applied for 485 and 886 on 11 March 2010 and granted vc 485 on 4 nov
    2011.I did health checks when the case officer was assigned for 485 (886 health checks included in that.My question is whetther my health checks are reusuable as a permanent standard or Do I need to provide DIAC the documents again as they are expired now?

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Only do them again if they actually request them. They can and it will depend on the time elapsed. generally they don’t.

  115. Hi Grant,

    I lodge 886 visa on August 5, 2009. As i recently checked the immigration site on updates of allocation of visa application, my group (886 group 5 e-lodge) was allocated as far as August 14, 2009. But I havent received any email regarding progress of my application. Do i need to contact the immigration regarding my case if so how do you suggest would i do that?

    It has been a long wait, and now that i am within the bracket of allocated application but i havent heard anything from them Im so confuse on what action should i take to know my status. Hope to hear from you… Thanks a lot!


    • Fernando Oliveira

      Hello Grant,

      i’m in the same situation as Zandra. Should we wait or should we take any action??


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Fernanado As I have just said to Zandra wait a little while – a few weeks. GW

        On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Zandra They may be just processing the application and you may hear soon. How long ago did you check? Yes you can attempt to contact them but I’d just hold on for a bit as the system is quite slow even when the file is opened. GW

      On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • hi grant,

        thank you for your response. they updated the site yesterday.

        Im waiting for years, i guess few more weeks wont hurt.. thanks a lot! you are of big help to us!


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Zandra Yes so true. It is sad to have to think that way but it is in the end the reality Good luck GW

        On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  116. Fernando Oliveira

    Tks a lot for your reply GW. I have one last question. Should i start organizing medical and police check? or should i wait DIAC contact me?

    Tks again

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Fernando I’d wait until they ask but if you have o/seas police checks to get maybe start those now as AFP and medials only take a couple of weeks. GW

      On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  117. Hi Grant,

    I wanted to ask your opinion on whether I should change my visa subclass from 886 to 885. I received an e-mail in 2012 mentioning that the visa subclass processing priorities and that I could change the subclass to 885 if I wanted to and was eligible. At the time I thought that family sponsored would be faster and kept it as 886. But now, looking at the dates on the website, it says that 885 gets processed up to applications lodged before 15 June 2010, whilst 886 is until 14th April 2009. I lodged my application in March 2010. Should I now change the subclass, and do you think that would make a difference, or just complicate things more?

    Thanks very much for your time and assistance!


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Juliana Yes if you still meet the points test as an independent applicant – that is you do not need the sponsor points to achieve a points test pass. GW

      On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Hi Grant,

        Just another question, my occupation is no longer on the SOL, but it used to be. Do I have to abide by the current SOL, or will it be referred back to the previous one at the time of my original application? If so, does that mean I would not be able to change my application to the 885?

        Thank you.


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Juliana You are governed by the SOL at your date of application. 886 and 885 are in the same visa class this is why you can swap. GW

        On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  118. Hi grant I applied my 485 visa last June without ielts . Later I knew that it will get rejected, after I applied for the student visa for advance diploma of management . I got the visa and I’m completing the course on this June . Recently I got 6 in each band . My question is can I again apply my 485 visa after completing the diploma and the one that I applied before get refused yesterday . In addition I did bachelor of professional accounting.

  119. Hi Grant,

    Thanks for this forum, this is the only place where i can get some help. Sir, I have applied as a cook in May 2011 (Visa 885). Now I am in priority group 5. On immi website dates are moving very slow and not so accurate.
    1. Can u please give me a rough estimate , when my file will be allocated to the case officer.
    2. I got married overseas in feb. do i need to update to immigration before allocation. I am on Bridging Visa A
    3. Can I call bring my wife to visit in Australia on a visitor visa. what r the chances.

    Thanks Grant

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      1. No I have no idea how long it will take as it is not a ontinuous process that is predictable at all.
      2. Yes you should update them but you will have to sponsor your wife here as you were not in the realtionship at time of application so she cannot be just added.
      3. She can apply but it is up to DIAC to determine if she will get a visa.

  120. Hi grant I married last January , while applying for my 485 visa , I like to include my husband name on the application but my husband never has been in Australia. Can I put my husband as secondary applicant or I should have to wait till I get 485. Thanks

    • Hi grant can u please help me with the partner visa application. I applied 886 fs visa application August 2009 n 2012 I got married then I add my partner in my file by putting change of circumstances form.
      I got my residency approved last month and waiting for few documents and then I apply for 309/100 visa offshore. Can u assist me if there is any other option while I added her in my file.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Roma You must wait until the 485 is granted and then make a new 485 application as a subsequent entrant. GW

      On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  121. Dear Grant, My son and his fiance lives in South Africa and are getting married in November 2013. The are in a de facto relationship for the past 2 years.He will sponsor her as he has Permanent Residency. They want to apply for her visa now seeing the processing times are so extended. What will be the best visa be to apply for seeing the visa may only be granted after their marriage in November?

    Thanking you


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Dolores I am not sure what you are asking. If they meet the de facto rule then they can apply now. They do not need to wait to be married. GW

      On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Hi Grant, They do qualify to apply for a de facto visa but their marriage date is set for November for various reasons.They will get married in South Africa and then they will wait for the visa to come to Australia.
        My question is if they apply for a de facto visa now ,how will the marriage in November affect the application or can they after the marriage just let immigration know of their change in status?

        Thanking you



      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Dolores If they qualify now marrying will have no impact beyond being more proof of their commitment to a genuine relationship. They should anticipate their pending marriage in the application cover letter and then send the official marriage certificate to to the embassy Immigration section as soon as they have it with a set of wedding photos and some of the receipts associated with the wedding/reception. GW

        On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • Hi Grant
        Thank you so much that is how I understood it . I was nearly ripped off by an migration agent who wanted us to pay double because he said after the marriage he has to do a conversion and that will double the costs!!!
        Is it possible to send me an email with a quot for a de facto visa application?
        Thank you for the good work you do. May you be blessed!!


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Dolores That was a complete lie of course. I do not like to quote fees on the Blog as it is a service I provide not a commercial exercise. You can call me to discuss assiatance with an application. Grant Williams JP 195363 Registered Migration Agent MARN 0854799 Immigration Pty Ltd Suite 35 / 647 – 649 George St Sydney 2000 PO Box K1221 Haymarket NSW 1240 Telephone: +61 2 92114694 Mobile: +61 (0) 430351877 Email: Blog:

        On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  122. H grant, i am in subclass 5 886 visa an lodged on 1st august 2009, and most of the people who lodged after that has been contacted with a case officer and nothing any news for me, should i be worried and call immigration, pls help jay

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      It is a huge system with amny many groups of DIAC processing the huge number of applications. I assume logistically they are divided up into groups of applications and that means some groups access the next file slower than others as each previous case must be individually assessed. I’d say it is just a reflection of how the cases move from one big pile to many samller groups for processing. But then I’m not sitting in the DIAC office so this is only an educated guess.

  123. hi grant as you advised to wait for few more weeks, luckily i am now contacted by the CO. now my question is when i lodge my 886 visa my spouse is offshore but i put his name as my dependant. now the CO is also asking some requirements from him and requesting for his medical.. does it mean that he is already included in processing our pr? thanks again!

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Zandra Possibly yes but your partner needs to be here to get this visa I think. It is hard to say as I have not seen your paprework and all the relevant dates. Please also remember DIAC will ask questions and require docs fro dependants whether they are included in the application of not. So I cannot say from this info. GW GW

      On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • hi grant my spouse is not included in my student visa, he is not also included in my bridging visa and he is living offshore.. in that case can i still include him in processing my PR? if not what can i do to include him.. thanks again!

      • hi grant i decided to make my question more detailed.. i got married january 2009 in my home country while on a student visa. But i didnt had a chance to get him while on student visa. So when i lodge my 886 application on august 2009 i include his name as my dependant. but eversince he is living offshore. now that my PR is processing, i want to know if he is included in my application. since they are asking some docs from him and he has a request for medical. if not what can i do to include him. thanks for your help!

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Zandra No you cannot add him to your application. The only way is to sponsor him once you get PR as a spouse. GW

        On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  124. hi there grant, again this is prakash here, earlier i had asked for your help and you did it well. Once again i need some assistance from you.
    The thing is that i had applied for gsm family sponsored visa 886 in december 2009 and today i had got the mail from dept.
    Now they saying that as per rule u need to have ielts score of 6 in each module. & at that time i have passeed the TRA as cook but now they asking me that it should be as CHEF.
    So can you please guide me what can i do in this case please?

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Did you apply for 886 as a Chef or a cook?
      If you applied as a Chef this will be a problem.
      If you applied as a cook it may just be a mistake.
      They cannot upgrade you from cook to chef.

  125. thanks for reply grant. i had applied as chef for 886. and i had made a mistake while applying as you guessed it right.
    What can be done now? can u guide me please?

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Prakash I cannot see anything you can do unfortunately as you cannot change occupations. GW

      On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  126. Hi Grant

    Me and my wife applied for GSM 885 visa and were waiting for a case officer from last one year. 2 days ago a case officer was finally allocated and asked us for medical checkup. Now the situation is that my wife is 2 weeks pregnant. Will it effect the processing of our application. Will it be delayed until the birth of the child or will we get PR before that ?

    Please advise as i am bit worried.

    With best regards

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      I’d say you are now going to have to wait. You need to send the CO evidence that your wife is pregnant fro your primary treating doctor.

  127. Hi Grant,

    Thanks for the quick response.

    Actually we had our medical 9.5 months ago, after that we went overseas for some time. Will medical still be valid as i heard that its validity is one year Or its now void as we went overseas ? Because if it still valid, i may get away with the above mentioned issue.

    My situation is really very complicated but i am sure you will be able to guide me through :-)

    Best regards
    Gary Badhan

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Gary Should be OK as you have done the medical. No the travel does not void the medical. GW

      On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  128. Hi sir i got my medical done yesty for my pr..but in my medical i got high blood pressure.Is that will affect my pr ….or will case officer tell me to check again…but whn i asked dr.she told ur blood pressure is high but alright fir immigration ..i m worried …thnx

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      I am not a doctor so I cannot comment on your medical issue. From an immigration perspective DIAC may request a specialist medical report before clearing your medically for the visa. This will of course slow up the process a bit. However look on th epositive side it is good to have this identified and to take action to improve it and you will live longer as a result. All you can do is respond as quickly as you can if they ask for additional tests.

  129. Thanks for reply .but i asked the doctor who took my medical .she said its alrite for immigration …soo what that mean ?? Immigration will listen to her report!

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Albert If the panel doctor said it is OK then DIAC accept that without reservation. All good. GW

      On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  130. Hi. sir
    i have a question
    i have applied for 885 visa in march 2012 and still waiting for a co to be assigned to my case , but few of my friends applied for 885 visa in nov 2012 and got a co asking for medicals in may 2013 . is diac picking up files randomly or is there any set order.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      No but each application is individually assessed and some are easier then others often depending on the country of origin, what was revealed in their form 80 and security checks.

  131. Hi, sir
    I applied 886( family sponsor) group 5, in December 2009. Could u pls guess when my CO will be allocated? Many thanks. Ur answer will be very helpful

  132. Hi, Grant,
    I am so glad to have found the blog here. I agree with your comments.
    My application was lodged in 2008. I am currently on Prioirty 5, subclass subclass 176, family sponsored.
    Would you kindly provide your comments on the following?
    1) In the latest Migration Program Statistics, the number for Skilled Australian Sponsored is zero, does that mean DIAC will not allocate any case for this category in 2013-14?
    2) I got marry last year. Do I need to inform DIAC the change of m

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      You can inform DIAC you are married and ask that your wife be included in the application. As to numbers I believe that DIAC are not currently processing any of these offshore cases.

  133. sorry. this is Dave again. 2 more questions.
    2) I got married last year. Should I notify DIAC now, or wait until my case is allocated?

  134. hi grant, i was allocated last may 2013… we completed all the required doc last june 26 including my spouse medical check who is offshore. i received an email from my CO july 15 that he is still waiting for the proccessing of my spouse medical. Its almost 2 mos now since he did his medical. would you know how long to process medical check? by the way it is done online.. they gave him hri number that will link to my application. should i be worried and call my CO? thanks for your help!

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Zandra No not worried. They finsh all the requirements and que the application for visa grant and this can take months depending how long it has been since you actaully lodged the application. Total usually about 12 months plus or minus. GW

      On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

      • hi grant i apply 886 visa august 2009… its been 4 deppressing years already and my spouse is not included in the application since i fail to include him to include in my student visa.. in my case do you think it will take this long?? thanks for your usual help.

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Zandra This is one question i cannot answer as in the end processing decisions are an internal DIAC policy decision. GW

        On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  135. Hi grant ,

    I had applied for my 886 sponsered visa on 7 march 2010, i had already got my temporary residency visa , i am stuck in a problem , i went to my home country for holidays and suddenly my temporary visa expired , my agent says that wait for your application to be resolved . Let me know how long it may take for my pr to come ?? Any chances if i could go on any grounds before my pr to australia or how long i have to wait !! Please help me out ! Thank you

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Well that was a silly mistake. No one can tell you how long 886 will take to process.
      Wait there and then apply for a visitor visa once they are ready to grant the 886. DIAC are granting visitor visas for this purpose.

  136. Hi Grant,

    Type of Visa: GSM 885 Cat 5, Date of Lodgement: October 2011

    Would writing to the department help? I have written once to the minister, only getting a reply with sympathy and general answers. 27th July the website said it was updated on 29th of July. I also get told that people who believe to make a significant contribution towards economic growth of Australia get priority. How do accountants and IT professionals who end up in Australia and particularly in Restaurants working as waiters and kitchen hands make a valuable contribution? Do you think I should write again to the new minister asking for a genuine update in regards to the processing?(been 6 months since the dates have moved)


    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      There is no such priority system for Cat 5 885 applications.
      Writing is a waste of time. You can only wait and hope they get around to it eventually.

  137. Hi Grant,

    Just some happy news to share. A while ago, you advised me to change from 886 to 885, since I was eligible for the change, and the 886 sponsored visas were getting processed so slowly. Well, I did and they put me on top priority because the current processing of visas (by date of submission) included the date of my original 886 submission. I got assigned a case officer very soon after e-mailing my query to change, and after redoing my health checkup and police checks, I got my PR within 2 business days of submitting the supporting documents!

    Thanks for your advice, and good luck to the rest!

  138. G’day Grant.. Appreciate the time and efforts you putting in to help us..
    I applied for Gsm visa 886(family sponsored) on 26dec 2009. I am planning to go overseas for family reunion.
    Is it ok to go ? As according allocation table till 1 dec 2009 applications has been finalised.
    Does travelling overseas for 40 days wd effect the processing or file being thrown under the pile again?

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Vicky NO traveling will not affect processing and if DIBP are about to process your visa they will not give you a BVB to travel. GW

      On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  139. Hi Grant,

    What is the procedure of switching from 886 to 885 subclass?

    Arrived in Oz: June 2004
    Applied PR: 10 January 2010
    subclass: 886 – family sponsored
    Bachelor degree in IT – ACS gave 60pts
    Occupation applied for is IT prof (NEC)
    Working for 3yrs now in rural area under Mining industry as Database Administrator

    @Juliana, your story inspired me :-)

    • Hi Mellany,
      You can’t ‘switch’ to another visa subclass. Each application is a new application. The 885 visa no longer exists, you won’t be able to apply. The old 885 was replaced with a new visa subclass known as 189, with new criteria and process of application. Best to get in touch to find out your eligibility for subclass 189. Kind regards, Rowena

  140. Hi Grant! i was assign to a case officer last may. I just learned that my case officer resigned last august which explains why he is not answering any of my email or calls. the new case officer managing my application has not contact me or answer my querries sent to the contacts of my first case officer. what should i do? im caught in a limbo! need your advice?

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Zandra You case will have a new CO and all you can do is wait to be contacted. Constantly trying to hassle them will not help. GW

      On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

    • Hi Zandra, doesn’t sound like you will get much of a response from your new case officer, might just have to wait until they are ready to contact you. It is often the case that a case officer will not respond to ‘progress inquiries’. Regards, Rowena

  141. if i have a new case officer, will my application be on regular processing queue or will start a new queue and wait for my file to be reopen. thanks!

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Zandra No it just stays in the normal process. Should not be a disadvantage -case officers change all the time. GW

      On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Australian Immigration Blog – Grant

  142. thanks Grant! it gave me some peace. more power to you!

  143. I launch my visa 457 in 6 jan 2013 and after that immi was went for audit purpose of site visit , but mistakly the visit wrong site after then my boss send clarification of address in company letter pad , after then immi didn’t give me any reply till yet today’s days and I case officer also change I send lots of email to to 457 department of Melbourne but till yet I haven’t got any reply so can you plz let me know how many time it takes more they in this case because I reply immi so many time but no resposes so kindly plz let me know what’s should I do , and my agent alwayes say it’s file was with montering team . So what’s next I can do plz sir tell me

  144. Dear Grant,
    Would you kindly advise if Traffic Offences, such as speeding and Traffic Light Offence, affect the result of police clearance for GSM application? Many Thanks !

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      If will appear on the AFP but in the end no it does not mean you fial the Character Test in and of itself.

  145. Dear Grant,
    Thank you so much
    I worried so much about it before.
    Have a nice day.

  146. Hi grant,
    I applied sub class 487 in mother’s father sponsored me but after that he had heart attack and he passed away. But my migrant agent told me it will not effect my case.but now when my file open immigration asking for new sponsor. My case already refused. I have an uncle now my mother’s real brother . before he refused to sign due to some family mater but now he ready.i have been put my can I mention his all documents now? Is this put a good effects on my case? So worried . Please suggest me something.
    Thank you so much

    • Dear Grant,
      If I can attach my uncle’s documents then please tell me when I have to submit it.
      Thanks dear.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      I do not believe the MRT can accept a new sponsor at this stage. DIBP asked for a sponsor and you failed to provide this ‘uncle’ and they reused the application. The MRT can only apply the same law as DIBP and at time of decision you did not have a sponsor. My view is that the MRT must affirm the DIBP decison.

  147. Dear Grant,
    Someone stolen my documents those send me by immigration related to my visa process. I am sure That is my uncle .he also tried to contact immigration.story is _before he ready to sponsor me but now he also asking for+ $60000 cash money. I denied so now he has been stolen my documents from home.
    He also call back home country to my parents and said he can put drug to my home and put me and my husband is jail. He cal my husband and said to without me u will not even move here. He is thinking I am illegal in this country but I put my MRT. He did this before with so many people. when he came to Australia he was illegally.when he got his permanent residency here he said so many illegal people put you income in my account bcoz u people can’t open account in bank but later he complaints about them . immigration send those people back but he never gave their money back to them and also get reward from immigration now he is thinking its same think will happen what he did in his past time.he became a rich man now so many houses and taxis. But still he is hungry for money thats why now he wants to spoil my and may families life.i don’t understand what to do bcoz I scared this time . sacred to go to police even he had good frnds in police to.He aslo send them(police)to other house to collect his rent if people delay to pay that.
    So please suggest me what I do now because my mum in back home country she is mentality upset to warried so much.
    Your faithfully
    Thank you

    • Thanks grant.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      This is a police matter. Someone needs to report this to the police.
      You can contact DIBP and explain the situation and ask for copies of your documents also contact MRT and do the same.

  148. Dear Great,
    Thank you for this advice. But I am so sacred at this time. is this effect on my MRT case?. If I will inform to police they will take action and he is very I am worried about my and my family safety. Police can’t stay all the time with me.
    I know I am look stupid to ask these questions but at the moment even I sacre from a little nock.
    Thanks dear.

  149. Dear Grant,
    would you put some light on this ” your application is remain under active consideration” this line is in my CO’s email reply.
    Actually I m 886fs June 2009 applicant. Co allocated April 2013, mid 2013 asked to submit form80, & later end of 2013 asked to submit PCC, then 1st week of March contacted by different gsm team (team13) to provide further info, and now end of March 2014 I was asked to do medical, my medical finalised and updated on my online application in April 2014. Since than I m waiting….
    And sorry one more thing what does ” TRIM ” mean in case officer email’s subject line.
    kind regards,

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      I’d say you are about to get the visa. TRIM is nothing relating to you it is a system of records – case notes .

  150. Dear grant,
    I am thinking to put 457 now, but I have listen 457 conditions change now.its only one year then have to get sponsor again.sry one thing more I did my year 12 study in English medium so is I can put my application use this as functional English or I must need to provide IELTS.
    Kindly regards,

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      You need IELTS
      457 has not chnaged it can be granted for up to 4 years.

      • Thnx grant,
        Ohhh my God it mean I can get PR after 4 year on 457.even my depends kids I hv to pay full fees for school??

      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Not sure I understand this question. All 457 holders mmust pay school fees.

  151. Hi Grant
    You are doing a wonderful job and a great service to all of us who need help and guidance regarding the 886.I went thro many blogs and I found that on Aug28,2013 the allocation date was Nov 30,2009 and on 5th May,2014 which is 9mths later it was just 11th Dec,2009.I have no way of verifying it but these are dates provided by people in charge of their blog.It’s so shocking and frustrating if it’s the truth.My daughter is waiting from june, 2010 and had applied as “Recruitment Consultant”,which was on the list when she applied but taken off later.The excuse immigration gives is that they have taken off jobs that are not in ‘demand’,yet you find this job always in demand and most often taken up by someone who doesn’t have the educational qualification for it,the same goes for many jobs that are taken off the list.People who have finished high school and worked in sales for many years have more chance of getting the job as recruitment consultant than a postgraduate in that field and it’s even worse without the PR.You find engineers,doctors,lawyers all working as rectmnt consultants but it’s not in demand!!!!!!.according to the people in charge.My daughter used to be a topper and I thought it would be helpful to send her where she had family but it’s the opposite now.She has wasted her youth in the pursuit of PR,the guilt of us taking a loan for her education weighs heavily on her,her younger sister is getting married and again the unsureity of this visa may stop her from attending that too.
    I agree that the authorities are not obligated to give everyone who studies in Australia a PR but when they have assessed and agreed to it they have a moral and legal obligation to follow it.When I see parents at the IDP office all so excited (like I was)I feel so sorry for them,I wonder what rules await them next year.Somebody please take pity on all those students who came for a better life to Australia,there are so many sad stories all waiting for some good news from Immigration.

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Yes they are very slow to process these applications and it is not right or moral but they hold the power and that unfortunately is the start and finish of the matter. All she can do is wait.

  152. hi Grant,
    As you are aware that Immi is taking ages to grant 886 visa.
    could you advise if i can go back to my country and wait there?
    i applied onshore/online

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      As you will be on a BVA you can ask for a long term BVB maybe 12 months – you can just stay there indefinitely but the BVB is the only option while you wait.

  153. Hi Grant ,

    I had written to you in 2012 for which you had said there would be a long wait. I am an applicant of 2009 sep under a 475 visa as an Office manager which was on the SOK list at that time. I check the website updates every month hoping for a change. Currently the website which was updated on 5th January, 2015 shows that Priority 1 to 4 have been completed and priority 5 not currently allocating. What does that mean . Have they stopped all family visas. Or do I have to wait for another 5 yrs. I was 45 yrs in 2009 , now I am 50 plus. Do I get a call at retirement age. Why doest
    DIAC just say a big NO No and let us get on with our lives instead of moving in the wilderness each day.


    Lancelot Ulric Collins

    • Immigration Pty Ltd

      Lancelot Ulric Collins
      I’m afraid I cannot tell you why DIBP are doing this to these applications beyond saying that it is a decision basically taken by the government not to process these valid applications. It means that currently they are not allocating any of these applications to DIBP officers to be processed. If an when they will do this I cannot say. Sorry it is a decision to which I am not party.

  154. theitalianfootprintlaria

    Hi there,
    I have been waiting for 6 years for my 886 Skilled visa to be processed and yet there is no timeframe established! I found myself part of subclass 886 due to decisions made by an unprofessional Immigration agent.

    I have been in Australia for 15 years all together, I studied, work, I pay taxes and still I have to pay international student fees if decide to study further and I have no entitlements whatsoever to Government benefits. This is ridiculous, it goes against ethics and human rights! I know that there are many people out there in the same situation and the Immigration keeps saying that that they cannot provide a processing timeframe.

    I don’t know what to do! I am trying to get some media attention the community needs to know, we deserve an answer either positive or negative, we are part of the Australian community and contribute to the Australian economy and yet living locked in limbo!

    Do you know if anyone may be interested in writing about this? Also I created a facebook page to congregate everyone who is in the same situation pls share if you can!

    The Australian Forgotten Visa Applications (886-457-& More)

    I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this

    • Immigration Pty Ltd


      Not sure I want to have my Blog used in this way. You are of course free to seek publicity but this is not why I answer questions for folks.


      • Hi ok no worries would I at least able to post my story so that you can comment on that I would love have ur advice. Without promoting the group?


        Sent from my iPhone


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        Yes I have left your story up on the Blog.
        DIBP are just not processing these applications – they have a very head in the sand approach to these applications hoping I assume you will all just go away or lose interest. Not a moral position in my view but they make the rules.
        Not sure how they can be encouraged to do the right thing.

      • Thanks a lot for that! Do you have any suggestions on how to approach this instead of just passively waiting?

        Sent from my iPhone


      • Immigration Pty Ltd

        If I did I’d have published it here long ago

      • your articles are extremely informative! Thanks for that,

  155. I have applied Gsm 475 skilled sponsored visa in August 2009 but till date also no case officer has been allocated with my file??I have spent lot of money also …its really difficult situation that a person has to apply again and give ielts exam again and again??? If anyone is having same issue & knows when will our cases allocated please share their views… Please & thanks

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